Teens arrested for bringing gun to Forestville school

[onehandle]

An El Molino High School student was found in school with a loaded handgun on Monday and was arrested, school and law enforcement officials said.

The student was pulled from class at the Forestville school shortly after 10 a.m. by school officials looking into reports that a student had spoken of having a gun. As he was being escorted to the office, he dropped a loaded Glock 9 mm in a garbage can, El Molino Principal Doria Trombetta said.

Interviews with students revealed that the student had been given the gun by another student, who was also pulled out of class and was found to be holding ammunition for the gun, Trombetta said.

The student with the gun was a freshman, Trombetta said. The student who gave it to him was a sophomore.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100510/articles/100519946&tc=yahoo

[shadowrider]

1. Wanna bet it's gang/drug related? And I'll bet these guys already have a rap sheet

“My understanding, and this is from what kids said the kid with the gun said, is that it was something out of school where he needed protection,” she said. “It had nothing to do with anything here.”

[baldguy]

2. More Big Librul Gubmint trampling on people's CIVIL RIGHTS!

Every 14-yr old should be able to carry a gun to protect himself.

:sarcasm:

[PavePusher]

10. Who's claiming that? Cite, please... n/t

[baldguy]

15. What is it about the totalitarian mindset that requires validation by an authority figure?

[slackmaster]

17. You're the one who's suggesting banning all guns

Who's the totalitarian?

[baldguy]

19. Who's claiming that? Cite, please... n/t

[slackmaster]

22. I apologize if I misinterpreted reply #12

:hi:

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. A high school freshman with a loaded gun in class.

Wonderful.

Simply wonderful.

[slackmaster]

4. Two more worthless pieces of shit identified and taken out of circulation

At least for a little while.

[RaleighNCDUer]

5. worthless pieces of shit for exercising their 2nd amendment rights?

Oh, my.

[friendly_iconoclast]

7. Looks like *someone* failed Constitutional jusrisprudence...

Under-18s can't get carry permits (and I doubt these two snowflakes would be able to, in any case), so bringing Mr. Glock
to school was illegal, on top of bringing it to a prohibited place.

Two perfectly Constitutional laws, broken by the two WPoS.


Wassamata? You should be happy further gun crime was prevented.

[slackmaster]

9. Minor data point - No state issues CCW permits to anyone under age 21

But friendly_iconoclast's point is spot-on.

[Angleae]

24. Not entirely true.

At least one (Texas), issues CCW permits to under-21 if they're ex-military or ex-law enforcement (this is the reason WA won't allow reprocity with Texas).

[RaleighNCDUer]

13. And where does the constitution say they can only carry guns after

age 18? Where does the constitution say that guns are illegal on school grounds?

Are minors prohibited by law from defending themselves?

[slackmaster]

18. Because the power to restrict concealed-carry by age is not granted to the federal government,

That power belongs to the states.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

The ignorance of basic law that gets so frequently demonstrated on this board by you people never ceases to amaze (or to amuse) me.

[RaleighNCDUer]

20. Does the 2nd say "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,

except in such ways as the states deem necessary."?

Or, are you admitting that the states DO have a right to regulate 'keep and bear arms' for individuals, for a variety of reasons, from age, to mental capacity, to criminal history, to type of weaponry, and other possible reasons?

[slackmaster]

21. Reasonable regulation of ANY civil right does not constitute infringement

Or, are you admitting that the states DO have a right to regulate 'keep and bear arms' for individuals, for a variety of reasons...

States don't have rights. Only people have rights. States have powers.

More ignorance of the basics of law.

Sad, really sad.

[RaleighNCDUer]

23. sheesh

...are you admitting that the states DO have the power to regulate 'keep and bear arms' for individuals...

As if you didn't know what I was saying...

:eyes:

So, what, exactly, is the difference between state age regulation on CC and "gun control" (ooh, scary).

Isn't regulating CC "gun control"?

It's like the old gag about "haggling over price". Allowing ANY gun control allows for any other gun control. If they can set the age at 18 - why not at 35? The principle is the same.

What it boils down to is you are only worried about YOUR guns. Just as nobody defended the rights of blacks to carry guns in the 60s - they were dangerous radicals, after all - while insisting THEY had the right to intimidate any civil rights protester they wanted.

You protest that "gun free zones" are an invitation to criminals to kill anyone without hindrance - yet when some kid is caught violating a 'gun free zone' you cheer. And see no dissonance in it.

Never mind. There's no talking to a fundamentalist.

[slackmaster]

26. CC laws restrict the times, places, and manner in which guns can be used

They aren't gun control per se. They're behavior (people) control.

It's like the old gag about "haggling over price". Allowing ANY gun control allows for any other gun control. If they can set the age at 18 - why not at 35? The principle is the same.

All of our rights are subject to reasonable regulation. Nobody is claiming otherwise. You're trying and failing miserably to push a tired old piece of sophistry, that if people who support the right to keep and bear arms accept any regulation that we are being hypocritical if we don't accept any and all regulation. Nobody is claiming that the right to keep and bear arms is absolute. It's subject to reasonable restrictions, just as are all other rights. (If you disagree, please name a right that is not subject to restriction through due process of law.)

What it boils down to is you are only worried about YOUR guns.

I do have a vested interest in maintaining unencumbered ownership of my guns, but I assure you I care about your right to own guns too.

...Just as nobody defended the rights of blacks to carry guns in the 60s - they were dangerous radicals, after all...

I believe a cursory examination of the history of open carry regulation would teach you otherwise. Governor Reagan signed into law California's proscription on openly carrying loaded weapons, but I'm pretty sure the gun lobby opposed it.

You protest that "gun free zones" are an invitation to criminals to kill anyone without hindrance - yet when some kid is caught violating a 'gun free zone' you cheer. And see no dissonance in it.

There is no dissonance whatsoever in my position. I have never in my life argued that minors or unlicensed adults should be allowed to carry guns at school. I think people who do have concealed carry permits should be able to carry pretty much anywhere, as long as they abide by the conditions of their permits.

[friendly_iconoclast]

28. The NRA gave a charter to "Negroes With Guns" author Rob Williams

And it seems you have "forgotten" all references here to Fannie Lou Hamer, the Deacons For Defense and Justice, and Zora
Neale Hurston.

-1 to you for your historical revisionism

[slackmaster]

8. No, worthless pieces of shit for BREAKING THE LAW

The only right they were exercising was their right to be DUMBASSES.

[baldguy]

12. So, if the law said that all firearms were banned thay'd still be worthless peices of shit?

Like the NRA poster boy Otis McDonald?

[X_Digger]

14. McDonald didn't break the law.. read more, talk less.

McDonald asked to register a handgun. He did not break any law.

[slackmaster]

16. Like most of your comments, that makes no sense whatsoever

Why don't you people try to come up with some new material once in a while? Your remarks remind me of Biff in the Back To The Future movies. (e.g. "I'm gonna make like a tree and split!")

Your pool of idiotic remarks and straw man arguments is getting pretty stale.

Otis McDonald didn't break any laws.



Like the NRA poster boy Otis McDonald?

Poster WHAT?!?!?

[DonP]

25. Mr. McDonald left a message

Smart Fella that Otis.

(From the Chicago Sun Times, and the HuffPo ...)

"Otis McDonald doesn't care what you think.

You can accuse the black, inner-city grandfather of betraying Chicago neighborhoods overrun by thugs with guns. Go ahead, call him a pawn of wealthy, white gun-nuts suing to lift the city's handgun ban."


I guess he doesn't feel particularly concerned about what gun control advocates think about his choices.

[friendly_iconoclast]

29. Hatred has clouded your memory. Otis McDonald has broken no laws.

You're the second member of your claque to attempt to rewrite history just in this thread alone.

An excellent illustration of why gun controllers are losing.

[Travis Coates]

6. In other news today

80 million legal gun owners and upwards of 300 million legal guns in America did absolutely nothing wrong

What's your point

[rrneck]

11. Unrec for grandstanding. nt

[proteus_lives]

27. Ban teens.

It's the only way we'll be safe.

[Callisto32]

30. It's getting to the point where I don't even have to look at the author column...

You need a new M.O.

It isn't even entertaining in the "aww, s/he's still trying it...." kind of way, anymore.

[Tejas]

31. Look at it this way, with *some* drive-by OP's you

don't have to tolerate any idiocy by them throughout the duration of the thread, just idiocy from their cheerleaders and anklebiters.

It's their nature, they do an initial OP and *poof*.

[Callisto32]

32. Never thought of that.

Good point.