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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:30 AM
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Memberless VPC Decries Meeting of 70,000 of NRA’s Members in Charlotte
Washington, DC --(AmmoLand.com)- For quite a long time now, the three or four anti-gun radicals that make up the Violence Policy Center haven’t had much to show the Joyce Foundation for the hundreds of thousands of dollars the leftwing foundation wastefully pumps into the anti-gun group each year.

As regular readers of AmmoLand well know, Second Amendment opponents’ defeats have outnumbered their temporary successes by a wide margin lately.

So, to earn their keep, this week the VPC - so small that it could hold its annual meeting in a closet - issued a predictable rant about NRA’s 2010 Annual Meeting in Charlotte, N.C., at which 70,000 of NRA’s four million members will assemble with former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, the ever-popular Chuck Norris, Tom Selleck, and Ted Nugent, and others to celebrate our successes and galvanize our efforts to advance Second Amendment rights in Congress, in state legislatures, in the courts, and in the voting booth.

The specifics of VPC’s rant are not worth mentioning. But we can’t resist noting that the anti-gunners brag that one of them once wrote a book that bad-mouthed the NRA. Doing so gives us the opportunity to note another book, Profiles in Courage, by NRA Life Member President John F. Kennedy. In it, JFK recalled that Missouri’s 19th century U.S. Sen. Thomas Hart Benton was once told by a detractor that he would one day write a book in which Benton would be featured prominently. Benton, JFK’s account recalls, replied that one day he too would write a book, but that his detractor would not be featured in it at all. As VPC’s desperate gripe about our Annual Meeting shows, at the current rate the anti-gun group is destined to have a similar fate.

http://www.ammoland.com/2010/05/16/memberless-violence-policy-center/
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:52 AM
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1. I thought it was odd that the NRA peeps couldn't bring their guns to the big show.
just sayin
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:58 AM
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2. Banned in that venue by state law. nt
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:19 AM
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7. Yeah I read that. Made sense to me not to let 70,000 guns into one place.
;-)
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:31 AM
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8. Why would there be 70k guns there? nt
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:50 AM
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9. It said 70k attendees.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 12:11 PM
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10. Do you really assume every attendee would have a gun?
:rofl:
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 12:44 PM
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11. Isn't that why they're there?
I wouldn't go, but then I don't own guns.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 04:40 PM
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13. Just like every ACLU member has a lawsuit going?
NRA is a single issue group designed to protect and advance 2nd amendment rights. No more, no less.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 05:39 PM
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14. Uh, no.
:rofl:
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:20 PM
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16. I've been to a Picasso exhibition, I don't own a Picasso.
Do you see the hole you fell into?
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 01:59 PM
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12. Why?
What do you think would have happened?
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:59 AM
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3. Not as odd as..
Josh Sugerman, the front man for the VPC having one of the very few Federal Firearms licenses in Washington DC...

Just sayin
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:03 AM
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5. What the pro-control folks don't know about their leaders

is amazing.

Just sayin.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:14 AM
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6. Relax. He's with the VPC so it's okay dontchaknow
He was for it before he was against it.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 03:15 AM
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18. I assume he has it to gain access to some sort of records
or bulletins with the BATFE. Something like that.
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 07:17 AM
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19. Uh, don't you have to actively be involved in commerce to have an FFL.
Like have a store-front, and business hours and whatnot?
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 07:57 AM
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20. One would think, but probably not.
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 12:54 AM
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27. FFL's
Back in 1992 when there were about 240,000 01 FFL's, the Clinton catch phrase was "kitchen table gun dealers."

A conscious decision was made to force as many as possible to give up their licenses. This was done in two ways. First, the fee for an 01 FFL was raised from $10/year to $200 for the first three years, each three year renewal after that is $90. The intent was simply to make the license cost unattractive those who only a few transfers a year.

Second, the ATF now requires you to prove that you are complying with state and local laws regarding zoning and business licenses. You can still run your business out of your house as long as it doesn't violate a local law on businesses in residential areas. (That's the interesting question about Sugermann's FFL, given DC's laws.)

You can be open to the public "by appointment". There is no minimum number of firearm sales required the ATF. They only require that you be "engaged in the business". ATF regulations only allow for transactions at your licensed premises or at a gunshow (and then only within your own state, with none of those in DC, I guess Josh won't have a table.)
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:03 AM
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4. Joyce's directors, past & present, lost money investing in anti-gun schemes. n/t
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:13 PM
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15. Well, it's a non-profit organization, right?
How better to be a non-profit than by losing money?
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 03:13 AM
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17. Well, the itinerary sucks.
Oh boy, Palin, Norris, Nugent, regular shithead trifecta.

The NRA will remain marginalized among even Gun-Owning democrats as long as they keep those sorts of headline acts.
I mean hell, are they going to dig up Reagan's corpse to speak too?

This is why, even with all the good gun safety education they do, access to certain NRA-only ranges, and all that, isn't worth me sending them a membership fee. Just not going to do it.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 08:13 AM
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21. I agree
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 08:29 AM
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22. An organization that can deliver the votes the way the NRA can is never marginalized. N/T
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:18 AM
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23. .......speaking of membership
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:41 AM
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24. Oh, that is hilarious!
That is one excellent indicator of how much grassroots support the Brady Campaign has.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:42 AM
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25. A grand total of $20 for Brady after how many days, weeks, months?
Typical Brady post. More critical posts than support and only $20 donated after how many days.

Maybe they should list the several millions from the Joyce Foundation and beg the Joyce board to post, so it at least looks like someone agrees with them.

Let's save that site address and keep recommending that all the folks down here that think Brady is on the right track here put their money where their mouth and heart is.

Of course Skinner might not like having a fund raising web site for a GOP led organization on DU?
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:49 PM
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26. The Jon Stewart clip on the site makes me rather sad.

Looks like Jon has joined the band of intellectually lazy knee-jerks on the gun "control" issue. I gave him credit for more smarts.
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