Woman Shot by Man Checking in Gun at Bass Pro Shop

[RamboLiberal]

A man checking in weapons at the Bass Pro Shops store in Rancho Cucamonga accidentally shot a woman shopping nearby.

San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Tracy Dorsey says the 52-year-old Chino Hills man, whose name wasn't released, brought six guns to test fire Sunday afternoon when the .45-caliber weapon fired.

The bullet traveled 40 yards and struck a female shopper in the left buttock.

Dorsey says the round gave her a minor wound, but didn't penetrate the skin. She was taken to a hospital for treatment and her name wasn't released.

Bass Pro Shop spokesman Larry Whiteley says customers check weapons in at the front desk before going upstairs to the firing range. On Sunday, the weapon fired before the employee examined it.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/05/18/state/n075252D94.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0oIXlwrlT

The incident happened at 3:45 p.m. at the Bass Pro Shop when a customer brought two of his own guns to the shop to use at the indoor firing range.

As he was checking in the weapons at the front door to verify that they were unloaded and to be trigger-locked, a bullet discharged within the carrying case and struck a customer standing in an aisle about 70 feet away, according to a spokeswoman for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department.

Trigger locks are put on all outside guns until a range master unlocks the trigger at the indoor range, the sheriff's spokeswoman said.

"I was actually by the fish tank when I heard the shot," Jose Coria, a customer, said.

The victim was hit in the buttocks and was treated at the scene by paramedics and then transported to a hospital. She was not seriously hurt, CBS 2/KCAL 9's Mark Sayre reported.

http://cbs2.com/local/Woman.Accidentally.Shot.2.1697782.html

IMHO the Bass Pro Shops, Cabela's and Gander Mountains plus any others that deal in guns & have customers bringing them in for repair, trade or to shoot at the range should have a place with ballistic shielding where knowledgeable employees can assist a customer with a gun check. Always struck me when taking a gun in for service or trade that it is totally unsafe to be doing this at the front desk or customer service counter.

[rocktivity]

1. It's not liberals and peaceniks who undermine the image of responsible gun owners

it's people like this who don't even bother with the basics!

x(
rocktivity

[X_Digger]

2. Buns of steel? n/t

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

71. Until the paramedics arrived, they were buns of lead.

[X_Digger]

73. At first glance..

"The bullet traveled 40 yards and struck a female shopper in the left buttock.

Dorsey says the round gave her a minor wound, but didn't penetrate the skin."

^ That's what made me think buns of steel, but as others pointed out below, could have been a ricochet or a graze.

[Vinnie From Indy]

3. Another American moron that must prove his manhood by having an arsenal

These dumbasses are just beyond belief. This guy should be prevented from ever owning a gun again. It really is that simple. If you cannot practice gun safety at a zero tolerance level, you should not have any guns.

[AndyA]

5. +1.

But they would scream they're being deprived of their rights. :eyes:

[friendly_iconoclast]

17. Wipe the spittle off your keyboard, you are assuming facts not in evidence.

If it went off in the case, the weapon itself may be defective. Or it may not.
We cannot tell from the arcticle cited.
Still, if it's a negligent discharge let him bear the brunt.

[Vinnie From Indy]

43. Spittle wiped! You seem to have a little something on your chin as well!

Really? Are you really offering that this gun MAY have decided all on its own to pop a cap in this lady's ass? Jesus H. Christ! I will grant you that in the world of quantum physics and the many worlds theory the gun could have gone off all by its little ol' self. But, we live in the observable world and that shit just does not happen regardless of how many toothless rednecks offer that as an excuse while on trial for blowing their wife's head off or, for that matter, shooting some random stranger in the ass.

I am sure the lady that got shot in the ass could care less whether the gun was dropped, kicked, thrown or went off as an act of God. I am also quite sure her attorney won't give a shit either. Maybe it was one the guys other five guns that pulled the trigger? Maybe one of the bait fish at the Bass store crawled into the counter and squeezed one off as an act of futile rebellion for all his little fishy brethren that have met their doom at the end of a fishing line? I guess in your world these things all sound reasonable and rational.

PS - I wore a lobster bib this time as I typed so no worries!

Cheers! :)

[friendly_iconoclast]

74. Then charge the negligent gun owner with the appropriate crime.

And spare us the half-bright attempt at class warfare.

[Vinnie From Indy]

75. Aw c'mon!

I was hoping for something with just a little more wit or humor after your spittle comment. You are a real disappointment. Also, just as an FYI, class warfare usually refers to income disparity. But, if you want it to refer to those that believe that guns fire spontaneously and those that don't, I won't tell anybody!

Viva La Pistoleros!

[friendly_iconoclast]

76. Sometimes (not often), they do go off on their own.

And the original account didn't say that he pulled the trigger. But it seems he did.

Will you like me any better if I say "Bad gun owner! Bad!"?

Not all pistol owners are yokels, BTW:

[Vinnie From Indy]

80. All in good fun!

I humbly agree that not all gun owners are yokels and it is my guess that it is statistically possible that out of the hundreds of millions of guns in America one or two may decide to fire spontaneously once or twice a year. It would speculate that very old ammunition would be the culprit in any firearm that spontaneously discharges.

Cheers to you my friend~!

[pipoman]

77. As long as you assign the same level

of vitriol for, say, someone who runs a red light and causes an accident, I guess you are consistent. OTOH if you have EVER been involved in ANY accident which resulted in the injury of another person, and are still performing the act you were performing when the accident occurred, well then I guess we know what that makes you. I usually fall on the punishment fitting the crime.

For example, ...

Another American moron that must prove his manhood by having a car.

These dumbasses are just beyond belief. This guy should be prevented from ever owning a car again. It really is that simple. If you cannot practice vehicle safety at a zero tolerance level, you should not have any cars.

If this is how you really feel, well, there you have it....

[Vinnie From Indy]

86. Well, to be fair, cars are not designed to KILL things

I do know that if one is a habitual drunk driver, the state will take away the drunk drivers license to drive. I wonder if that is the same with gun owners? For example, what if this guy involved in the story was involved in multiple incidents of accidental discharge? Could the state take away his guns and prevent him from owning them for a set period of time or is there no limit to the number of accidental discharges allowed by law?

[pipoman]

87. If he is charged and convicted of a felony

he will loose his right to own firearms. Most states have laws concerning revocation of ccw which fall short of felony conviction. The vast majority of accidental/negligent discharges are likely never reported because they happen in people's home and cause no harm to others. Was it stupid, avoidable, and should it be punished? Probably, should the guy loose his rights because of it? Maybe since someone was hurt. My objection is to your advocacy of "zero tolerance" and the likely double standard I am sure you possess when it comes to public use of other potentially deadly or dangerous items. Even if you haven't been in an 'at fault' accident, you are likely close to someone who has been, and if you don't advocate the same level of punishment for their actions then you simply must have a jaded opinion of guns/gun owners. Cars kill WAY more people each year than guns, at a much higher rate percentage wise than guns. Accidents happen. Yesterday in my town a woman was hit by a motorcycle while crossing the street..

[oneshooter]

94. You wrote that

"I do know that if one is a habitual drunk driver, the state will take away the drunk drivers license to drive"

Yes that is true, but they do not haul his car off and place it in storage. He is still permitted to own a vehicle. That is an important difference.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[Euromutt]

96. How does that ameriorate things?

According to the CDC, in 2003-2006 there were on average about 700 deaths per year from unintentional gunshot wounds; during the same period, there were on average about 43,500 unintentional motor vehicle traffic deaths per year (of which ~16,600 per year were alcohol-related). The fact that cars aren't designed to kill doesn't make them any less lethal when handled incompetently.

To answer your wonderment, at least where my own state of Washington is concerned, discharging a firearm in a public place in a manner that endangers others is a gross misdemeanor (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.230), punishable with up a year's incarceration in a county jail and/or a fine of up to $5,000 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.20.021). If injury results from the discharge, it's third degree assault, a Class C felony (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.36.031), punishable by up to five years' imprisonment and/or S10,000 fine. And once you're convicted of a felony, as pipoman pointed out, federal law prohibits you from owning firearms (as does state law).

[cowman]

82. Another american moron that nust prove his manhood by belittleing gun owners

[sinkingfeeling]

4. Hope she sues.

[sharesunited]

6. Shut it down. Shut it all down.

[proteus_lives]

24. Are you a hypocrite?

Because last week a mechanic in my hometown lost a couple of toes when someone accidentally released a jack and the car fell on his foot.

So you'll be crying for the closing of all auto-shops, right?

[sharesunited]

29. You may be intending to accuse me of inconsistency. Not hypocrisy.

And I'm neither.

Having one's foot under a jacked-up car is clear assumption of the risk.

When a lady shops at the Bass Shop does she assume the risk of being shot in the ass?

[proteus_lives]

31. You take an assumption of risk when you get out bed in the morning.

Please explain how an accident here invalidates the rights of millions of Americans.

While in a other area it doesn't. Please explain.

[sharesunited]

34. Correction. Imaginary "right" hoaxed by willful misinterpretation of obsolete text.

Need to challenge your premise.

[proteus_lives]

38. Wow.

If you were scared of black people, you'd be calling the 13th Amendment that.

It's sad how you let fear control your life.

[sharesunited]

39. I'm the fearful one? ? Who is the one claiming that the public needs guns?

Clearly not me.

[jeepnstein]

45. "Need" has nothing to do with it.

It is our Right to be armed. That right is simply not going to go away because you wish it were so.

[sharesunited]

50. For some reason, you love guns so much that you have bought into that fallacy.

[jeepnstein]

51. Fallacy?

What do you mean by that? It's clearly written in to the Constitution of the U.S. and many of the States as well. They took the good time and trouble to include it right after Speech. How do you arrive at the conclusion that the 2nd Amendment is a fallacy?

[sharesunited]

55. The fallacy is that the general public should have access to guns and ammunition.

As a "right!"

For what purpose? To do what with?

[shadowrider]

57. Stop it already

You're killin me :rofl:

[GreenStormCloud]

88. Not a fallacy.

That issue has already been decided by SCOTUS. You lost.

[proteus_lives]

66. Need?

You are truly blind, willfully so, which is sad.

It's about choice.

I know you find that word detestable but try to understand.

[rrneck]

37. Yes.

She went outside her home. She assumes the risk of being shot in the ass, run over by a bus, and having her delicate sensibilities offended. All risks you are not willing to assume but would have others obviate for you.

[sharesunited]

41. Nice try at equivalency with being hit by a meteorite.

[rrneck]

42. That's a risk too.

Just much less of a risk than than being injured from a negligent discharge.

[zipplewrath]

7. Am I reading this correctly?

"...a bullet discharged within the carrying case and struck a customer standing in an aisle about 70 feet away"

The gun was still in the case when it discharged? What kinda gun discharges inside of a case? Almost sounds like the gun was in a bad case of disrepair, or a really bad round was sitting in the chamber.

[shadowrider]

11. From what I read elsewhere

And I'll try and find the link, the gun was in a carrying case when the customer went to get it out. He accidentally hit the trigger causing the gun to discharge.

Personally, if I take my weapon into a shooting range, I remove and empty the magazine, clear the weapon, put the empty magazine back in and put the gun into the holster. I know for a fact it's empty, but still treat it as if loaded.

[RamboLiberal]

13. When I take mine into a store for service or trade

I lock the slide back as well.

And at the range if they allow me to bring in holstered I do the same as you.

[DirkGently]

8. The "bullet discharged?"

Butbutbut GUNS don't shoot innocent people in the butt at Bass Pro Shops, right? Only non-CCW-carrying minority felons shoot innocent people in the butt in Bass Pro Shops. My NRA fundraising mailers have made this VERY clear. This just can't be happening. Has the world reversed on its axis? Have the very laws of nature, nay, of the UNIVERSE been upended?!!!

Can I have an "Amen?"

:crazy:

[lumberjack_jeff]

9. .45 cal at 70 feet didn't pierce skin?

Must have ricochet against the floor.

[ET Awful]

12. I was thinking that too. A direct hit would have taken a hell of a chunk out of that cheek. n/t

[RamboLiberal]

15. Possible it might have hit something else first in the store

Or just skimmed her butt, otherwise it would've been a bad wound. Luck was on her & the customer's side in this one.

[zipplewrath]

21. Inside the case

It said it was in the case. I suppose it could have gone through the case. And it was probably a light load for target practice.

[Ready4Change]

81. Is this possible?

Is it possible the cartridge wasn't in the gun? That he had loose cartridges in the case with the gun, and in taking the gun out somewhere set one off?

That would account for the low energy.

[HALO141]

92. That would likely have not even exited the case. n/t

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. It's HER fault for being down-range from him.

Maybe se shouldn't shop that aisle when guns are being checked in. Stupid woman.

That's only ONE incident in HOW MANY years? We know from other "responsible" shooters on this forum that at least 5 incidents in ten years are OK.

[friendly_iconoclast]

20. Ok, you got your Gun Haterz on, but why the strawman?

[proteus_lives]

25. In what other fields do you criticize the occasional accident?

Just wondering.

[jeepnstein]

14. Lots of fail at Bass Pro.

Why in the world do they have customers handling their firearms in a part of the store that isn't intended to help contain the inevitable negligent discharge? I will assume they didn't have a clearing barrel nearby. The most dangerous time for a firearm is when it is being passed back and forth and manipulated. It makes no sense to require this in the retail area.

Sounds like they put a trigger lock on a cocked and locked 1911.

[RamboLiberal]

18. All the chain stores that sell guns I've seen have the same practice

Which strikes me as unsafe. I've thought they need to install a clearing barrel staffed by a knowledgeable employee.

Gun shop employees have to have tons of stories about DUMB gun owners.

[shadowrider]

19. It was before a trigger lock was put on

The customer was getting it out to have that done when it discharged.

[rrneck]

16. Okay,

can everybody just go calm for a minute? It was an accident. Accidents happen with any technology. Sometimes they are tragic, sometimes not. The examples in the OP seems to indicate that every time a firearm discharges a horrible tragedy does not have to ensue.

Dorsey says the round gave her a minor wound, but didn't penetrate the skin.

But if it makes you feel superior to others, continue running around with your hair on fire.

[zipplewrath]

22. Prius

It's a bit like the Prius problem. Doesn't happen often, but the flip side is it ain't SUPPOSE to happen at all. Root cause is a bullet in the chamber. Never belong there in the first place.

[shadowrider]

28. I carry with a full magazine and one in the pipe

What's the problem?

[zipplewrath]

30. Carry or transport?

The guy was transporting to a place where they were going to apparently unload his weapon and place a trigger lock on it. It was suppose to be unloaded.

[shadowrider]

33. Transport when I'm in my vehicle. Carry when I go out in public.

[zipplewrath]

54. That's what I thought

Although if you were truly transporting it to some other place for storage, or that it otherwise should ultimately be unloaded, it should be unloaded during transport. Typically, a gun in a case is considered "in storage". IIRC, around here, it has to be unloaded during transport if you don't have a license to carry.

[shadowrider]

60. Don't need it here

It can be transported in a vehicle loaded or unloaded. It must, however, be in either a holster OR the original box it came in. The weapon can be anywhere in the vehicle as long as it meet one of those two conditions. I normally keep mine tucked into the drivers side door (in a holster). Since I'm left-handed, it makes it easier.

[RamboLiberal]

23. This was a totally preventable accident

On multiple levels. And it could've turned out to be horribly tragic. Thankfully it did not. My point in this story is that the stores & ranges need to rethink their policies on checking customer's guns. There are clearing barrels available that will contain any AD's.

[rrneck]

32. I agree

about the need for a secure location for clearing firearms (and should have said so in the previous post). I see it as a problem of corporations having more concern for profit than for their customers.

No accident need ever happen. That's why they're accidents. Trying as hard as we can to prevent them will at least ameliorate their negative consequences, but it will never eliminate all danger. The world just doesn't work that way.

[RaleighNCDUer]

53. No, it was NOT an accident - it was NEGLIGENCE.

There is a difference.

[shadowrider]

61. Gotta agree with you on that one

[benEzra]

63. Yup. The guy violated three fundamental rules of gun safety...

always treat the gun like it's loaded, keep the damn muzzle in a safe direction, and keep your finger OFF the trigger until ready to shoot.

[rrneck]

65. Jeez, is this really necessary?

Main Entry: ac·ci·dent
Pronunciation: \ˈak-sə-dənt, -ˌdent; ˈaks-dənt\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin accident-, accidens nonessential quality, chance, from present participle of accidere to happen, from ad- + cadere to fall — more at chance
Date: 14th century
1 a : an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance b : lack of intention or necessity : chance <met by accident rather than by design>
2 a : an unfortunate event resulting especially from carelessness or ignorance

But if you want to call it carelessness, fine. Here, let me help:



A gun owner fucked up!
A gun owner fucked up!
A gun owner fucked up!

Do you feel better now? Try to get out of your mother's basement sometime today. It's nice outside.

[Divine Discontent]

36. oh, so it didn't blow off her face, it's okay. that's how this is written.

why is this being done in the retail area? why don't they have a door that leads right up the stairs to the firing area? what the hell is wrong with some gun owners having loaded weapons in a case so that they pull them out they shoot people with them? That could have just as easily went into a little boy's skull.

[rrneck]

40. I'll say it again,

Accidents happen with any technology. Sometimes they are tragic, sometimes not.

Soooo, having one's face shot off or having a bullet in some child's skull would qualify as a tragedy, as referred to in the post to which your responded. I guess you couldn't see it for all the flames around your head.

[benEzra]

62. "Why is this being done in the retail area" is a good question indeed.

If you're taking them to the range, it makes sense to leave them cased and clear them in the range area, not downstairs with no backstop or clearing area. The customer showed a shocking disregard for Rules One, Two, and Three, but it seems the store didn't do a very good job setting up their procedure either.

I suspect their clearing policies were written by a lawyer who wasn't terribly familiar with guns. The requirement of a trigger lock for a gun that's going to be handled is a bit odd, since a trigger lock can pull the trigger. If they're going to install locks, requiring vinyl coated cable locks through the action would make more sense, although it would make even more sense to leave the guns cased until they are in a designated handling area and not in the retail area.

[Divine Discontent]

64. right! until they get to the gun area makes sense

[Euromutt]

83. I think you've put your finger on it

Yes, the customer fucked up severely, but the store's policy created the circumstances which gave him the opportunity to fuck up. Your suspicion that the policy was written by a lawyer unfamiliar with guns is highly plausible; it's the sort of policy that makes sense only to someone who thinks firearms are more likely to discharge from being jostled inside a case than from being inexpertly handled by at least two people.

[shadowrider]

26. More info

http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_15103119

[RamboLiberal]

27. More info on the AD

The 52-year-old man, whose name wasn't released, was checking in the weapons at the front desk when he noticed one of the guns had the hammer cocked. He reached for the .45-caliber weapon and it fired.

"(The bullet) exited through the bag, traveled about 40 yards away and hit a female shopper in the left side of her bottom," said San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Tracy Dorsey.

The round penetrated the woman's clothing and gave her a minor wound, but didn't penetrate. The round fell to the floor.

San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies received a call about the shooting at 3:47 p.m. They came to the store at 7777 Victoria Gardens Lane and seized the man's guns, Dorsey said.

The man told deputies he came to the store to practice firing his weapons in the store's upstairs firing range. Customers who bring weapons to the store are required to check them in at the front desk, where an employee places the firearm in a metal box to make sure it's not loaded. They put a gun lock on the gun before a customer is allowed to bring it to the range, or to carry around the store to shop for gun accessories.



Read more: http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_15103119#ixzz0oIgwAVGs

[shadowrider]

35. She must have purchased "Buns of Steel"

[jeepnstein]

44. In other words...

The fellow grabbed for a cocked 1911, managed to pull the grip safety, release the slide safety, and pulled the trigger hard enough to disengage the firing pin stop. 1911's don't just magically go off unless they've been altered to the point of being unsafe. Plain and simple the guy pulled the trigger on a loaded firearm.

It's all pretty stupid and preventable. When I take my firearms to a range setting, they are cleared and made safe before the trip even starts. Our Department requires that all weapons be cleared and made safe before even arriving at the range. Negligent discharges happen all the time with folks handling, loading, unloading, or otherwise manipulating a firearm. While a firearm is quite safe when it's riding in a holster, it's a whole different kind of dangerous when it's being handled.

[shadowrider]

46. He brought six guns. None identified that I could find

It could have been a revolver. All the stories mention is a .45. (Unless I need to adjust my bifocals).

[jeepnstein]

49. A .45 with the hammer cocked?

That narrows it way down. It could have been a revolver but it's not very likely.

[RamboLiberal]

47. Possible it was not a 1911?

Something like a Sig 220 I believe can be cocked and has no other safeties except for a decocking lever.

[Euromutt]

84. Maybe a Ruger P90 or P345? (n/t)

[RamboLiberal]

48. According to LA Times Blog the doofus pulled the trigger

He pulled the trigger of the .45 caliber handgun, apparently thinking it was unloaded because the magazine was removed. But the weapon went off from inside a bag, hitting a woman more than 100 feet away, grazing her in the buttocks.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/05/man-accidentally-shoots-shopper-in-rancho-cucamonga.html

[shadowrider]

52. Gun safety 101 - ALWAYS treat the weapon as if it's loaded

[PavePusher]

56. Anyone in the military can fix this problem with two words...

Clearing. Barrel.

Teh stooopid, it feels like buckshot.

[onehandle]

58. Better there than in a Starbucks. nt

[Euromutt]

85. It wouldn't have happened at a Starbucks

Since Stabucks doesn't require you to unnecessarily handle a handle a firearm in an area not made to contain a discharge.

[damntexdem]

59. Well, I guess this verified that the gun was not unloaded.

:-)

And I agree that the store needs to have a safe place for the check to occur.

[X_Digger]

67. Imagine handing your gun to the wal-mart greeter.

At least that's what the folks manning the turnstiles at my local bass pro shops are like.

I make damned sure there isn't a loaded mag within reach of those guys, all autos have the slide locked back, and all revolvers have open cylinders.

Sounds like the owner screwed up, though. Broke rules one, two, and three.

[RamboLiberal]

68. Between the Employees who are not gun knowledgeable & Dummy Owners

This is an accident waiting to happen.

We don't have any Bass Pros yet in my area, but I take it as my responsibility as a gun owner when I take my firearm in to Gander Mountain for repair or trade to do the same as you.

The few times I have it made me nervous to think about some gun owners bringing their guns in & having them checked by employees at front counter. Seemed unsafe to me.

I think from what I've observed that Cabela's has the same policy.

I still think they need a safe area with a clearing barrel or some time of ballistic backstop & to call someone from the gun counter to come up & check that a customer's gun is safe.

[X_Digger]

69. One thing that bugs me about Bass Pro's setup here..

.. is that the check & lock station is positioned right between the turnstiles.

People are streaming past you on both sides as grandma writes down the details of what kind of gun, what caliber, how many mags, how many rounds of ammo, do you have eye & ear protection; then she fondles it, and if it isn't a common gun you have to show her how to rack the slide and check the chamber, etc.

*shiver*

[RamboLiberal]

70. The couple of Gander Mountains I've had experience at

have you do it at the front checkout counter. I bring mine in with slide racked back & no mags in or if revolver with cylinder open. And even then I take care not to point it at me, clerks or other customers. Shudder to think of a doofus like this guy who leaves one on the chamber.

[X_Digger]

72. *nod* I've had to reach out and push a barrel away from me more than once.

I always have the action of mine open as well, but I've had more than one person rack the slide, even though they can see it's empty.

[oneshooter]

78. The Bass Pro near here dosn't check a CHL gun.

All others are to show a empty weapon, action/bolt open. They are then pull tied to prevent them from being loaded/fired.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[X_Digger]

79. No, they don't check my CHL gun, either.

The rangemaster there said, when I asked if I had to check my CHL gun, "Concealed means concealed."

[RamboLiberal]

89. This Bass Pro was in CA where CHL licenses are rare

And anyone open carrying has to do so with an unloaded gun.

[X_Digger]

91. *nod* without patting me down, the local bass pro never knows that I'm carrying.

They're not posted 30.06 or anything, so it's none of their business.

[HALO141]

90. Something doesn't pass the smell test

Guns don't just magically discharge without somebody's booger hook in the trigger guard. Article says the gun was still in a case.

Also says that the .45 caliber projectile hit the woman in the butt yet didn't break the skin. What???

[shadowrider]

93. Apparently

There was no magazine in the gun and the "alleged" (press loves that word) shooter pulled the trigger, for some reason, while it was still in the case resulting in an unexpected discharge (kinda like back when I was 17, but that's another story).

Remedial gun safety courses, at the least, is called for.

[PavePusher]

95. Clearing. Barrel.

Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel. Clearing. Barrel.



What part of this do civilians not understand?