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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 05:01 PM
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The LA Times- "Call it Reefer Madness"
Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 05:53 PM by Virgil
The LA Times had a milestone article that is a complete turn around from the media complicity in continuing the failure of Cannabis Prohibition. - http://www.latimes.com/features/printedition/magazine/?track=mainnav-magazine A snipped version appears at http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread18154.shtml and a link to a copy that does not require registration to read is listed after the snipped portion. Here is the full version link- http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/herer.htm

This is a huge deal coming from the LA Times. It's big. It's bigger than big. When it said "Call it Reefer Madness", I knew I was in for a treat. Damned that was a treat in itself.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Reefer Madness and it is the USG that has it. The guys are nuts. They are crazy. They need committing. Their mind is gone. How screwed-up can you get? Why not outlaw tomatoes, they make such terrible stains. They are more than bonkers, the buggers are eat up with Reefer Madness. Yes, Virginia, and Maryland too, they say cannabis causes Reefer Madness, but that is why they are known as the Great Inverters of Truth-GIOF for short.

It is hard to convey a thought in an article without words, and here the LA Times breaks the silence with what appears to be 4,356 words. Then you can add three words for the powerful title- The Demonized Seed That is more than the WP has used on reporting cannabis in maybe 4 or 5 years. Even a ballot iniative in D.C. is lucky to get 100. Here we have words and lots of words, focused and informing.

Where medical Miracle Plant shows the cruelty and vicious and malicious nature of the USG attack on cannabis, the hemp prohibition shows a stupidity that is incredible to believe if you regard it as policy. Of course the USG does not have a real policy toward anything cannabis. It has attitude.

It as if the LA Times does not want to sacrifice its reputation by being a reliable mouthpiece for the inverted reasoning the USG wants repeated on anything cannabis.

It is very important in presenting the back-assward ways of the USG. They are saying the government is wrong. They are saying the government is demonizing the seed. They are saying the government is mad on reefer. But more than just saying all of that, they are admitting to it.

Now, some people might not know why some people here almost always say cannabis. They even explain that with these words.

Because they're often used interchangeably, the terms cannabis, hemp and marijuana can be confusing. While cannabis encompasses all varieties of the species, hemp, often called industrial hemp, has come to mean a few dozen nonintoxicating varieties of cannabis bred and cultivated for commercial ends: clothing, paper, food, biofuels, biodegradable plastic, building materials, automobile parts, insulators, paints, lubricants—the list of possibilities goes on.

Marijuana, on the other hand, refers strictly to the cannabis drug plant, of which there exist endless varieties differentiated by the amount of intoxicating substances they contain, notably tetrahydrocannabinol (THC).


So an article gives us answers on a small subject. They very seldom ask the relevant question the information begs. The umrella question is what we always say when the prohibitionist start demonizing cannabis instead of the prohibition behind it all. This is your country on prohibition. The largest common question is "How will it be different when Miracle Plant is regulated?"

That story also says, "This is your country on prohibition. And again, the it begs the question, "How will it be different when Miracle Plant is regulated?" Let the prohibitionists say what they will, then ask how would things be different when we reach the Logical Conclusion.



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hijinks Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 09:07 PM
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1. what I don't understand...
...is how we all see to agree on this topic as evidenced by the total lack of flamewars on the subject but only one of our candidates will come out in favor of decrim...
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 09:48 PM
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2. The government is concerned about profits and contributions
Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 10:12 PM by Virgil
Cannabis Prohibition is really an impossible thing to defend. It started with the most unbelievable set of lies by Anslinger and is defended to lies with this day.

Media has had it easy as it is a one way street. The pronounce and people read. Ganjaganda should have told us that lies are a primary instrument of government and that the media is complicit in advancing the lies.

If the movie Grass were to run on television once a year like the Wizard of Oz, people would not accept the government's malicious opinion. There is one basic question that needs to be asked in a poll- "Should cannabis be regulated like alcohol and tobacco?

There were no national polls last year and it has now been about 14 months since the CNN poll produced the 80% figure of support for medical cannabis. They are afraid to ask the correct question for fear their stupidity will be recognized by that poll. Here at DU, you see major national polls almost everyday. They do not want the fact that there is no support for the failure and treason of Cannabis Prohibition to get out.

The prohibition laws are one side and the media complicity is the other side of the prohibition coin. There would be no CP(cannabis prohibition without the media's support of the stonewall approach. That means not letting the opposition have space. It was Randolf Hearst that demonized cannabis in the first place and used the word "marijuana" and made that the popular term it is today. I now call it laughing grass or Miracle Plant. Now who would support prison for possession of Miracle Plant?

The Republicans are worse because they follow the party line in order to keep party support. With party support they can keep there perky jobs. Their personal belief does not even fit in the picture really. Ed Rosenthall said that on one day a group of men would sit down at a table and decide that it is all over and that will be the end of it.

The pressure is worldwide. CP is wrong. It is senseless. It is costly. It is unAmerican. The end is coming and probably there will be a group of men that sit down and say we are looking like the *sses and treasonous scum we are and had better give it up.

The jig is up and here the LATimes is moving to restore the credibility they gave up when we lived in the age of newspapers.

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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:15 AM
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3. Zogby said 41% are for regulation
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 12:36 AM by Virgil
There was a Zogby International Poll done for the Drug Policy Alliance that said 41% of those polled thought Miracle Plant should be regulated like alcohol and tobacco. http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5682

It also appeared at Cnews here- http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread16716.shtml

There is an active poll that has been running for some time that has 208,291 votes http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101021104/index.html
I think it lets you vote to see the result but does not increase votes count or count your vote.

Should marijuana be legalized?

Yes -- 87.3%

Yes -- but only medically - 3.1%

No -- 8.9%

Total Votes Cast: 208291
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Fire Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:58 PM
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4. Web polls
While I am strongly in favor of legalization of all drugs, web polls like that are terribly inaccrate. There are really no activist groups out there working to keep marijuana illegal seeing as its such a well grounded status quo so when NORML or DPA sends out an email telling their memebers to "help" with the poll, its going to look like there is very little opposition.
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:12 PM
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6. I agree
A lopsided poll like that is just people trying to find expression for their desire for change. The poll supports that claim even though no Internet poll is worth taking seriously. That may well be true for a lot of polls from the media, especially when they have such goofy as options and questions. For example, Did the state of the Union make you more or less likely to vote for Bu$h?
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:21 PM
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5. Reefer madness indeed
This country's drug laws are a joke. Maybe someday the old white men up there making our laws will find out marijuana isn't any more evil than alcohol.
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