Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Long Gun Registration – Last Chance to Kill a Bad Bill Before its the Law (California)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Guns Donate to DU
 
shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 03:55 PM
Original message
Long Gun Registration – Last Chance to Kill a Bad Bill Before its the Law (California)
Edited on Fri Aug-27-10 03:56 PM by shadowrider
California --(Ammoland.com)- Legislation is pending on the California Senate Floor that would expand the current handgun registration law to long guns by requiring the CA Attorney General to permanently maintain a registry of ALL firearms purchasers.

Under the provisions of AB 1810 (Feuer), those who purchase or transfer a shotgun or rifle will be required to register that firearm by submitting their name, address, place of birth, phone number and occupation to the California Department of Justice.

--snip--

COHA believes that AB 1810 is an extreme invasion of personal privacy masked as an important crime fighting tool. At this point, it is unclear whether or not California’s existing handgun registration law is helping to fight crime in any meaningful way.

Therefore, it is unnecessary to greatly expand the handgun registration law to include all firearms – particularly given that traditional sporting arms make up less than 10% of all firearms related homicides in California each year.

http://www.ammoland.com/2010/08/27/long-gun-registration/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 04:11 PM
Response to Original message
1.  Do the lawmakers there realize that criminals don't have to register their weapons? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Doesn't matter. It makes them FEEL good n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 04:14 PM
Response to Original message
2. Those dimwits shouldn't be doing ANYTHING besides working on the 2010 - 2011 budget
What a bunch of fools.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. The Titanic is sinking and the politicians are registering deck chairs ...
This whole plan sounds to me like a desperate attempt to divert attention from the failure of the state legislature to address the economic problems in California.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 05:00 PM
Response to Original message
4. Are these the same guys ...
... that required registration of your semi auto rifle. Then banned them, forcing turn ins and confiscation.

I must be wrong. I've been reassured many times here that I'm just being paranoid and registration is not a gun control scheme with a hidden agenda.

I'm sure this will work out just fine and criminals will start pouring into the prisons using the rifle registration information.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Handgun Control, Inc., the Dept. of Justice, and the courts played parts in that fiasco.
The biggest problem I have with registration is that it doesn't actually do anything to improve public safety. The ROI is zero as far as I can tell. Cost notwithstanding, I can't see anyone making a convincing case for registration being a good idea.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. "Handgun Control, Inc.?" But, but, but these are long guns. It can't be! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 05:16 PM
Response to Original message
5. Excellent
Registries are expensive and worthless.

If I can't see california fall into the ocean... at least I'll get to see the straw that broke their camel's back. I wonder how, with their financial crisis, they propose to pay for this, lol.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Ask for more Federal "crime fighting" funds? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. As a native Californian, all I can say is.............

:banghead:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DongHa69 Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #8
14. Man
I do feel sorry for you Californians.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-10 06:15 PM
Response to Original message
9. Thanks, shadowrider. My letters are in the mail. N/T
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 11:10 AM
Response to Original message
11. Update... How Canada views its long gun registry ...

Gunning for the cash

By Chris Vander Doelen, The Windsor Star August 28, 2010 11:14 AM

Just as they did with the census debate two weeks ago, the Opposition and their allies are whipping themselves into a righteous froth over preserving the long-gun registry.

It doesn't seem to be working any more than their census fight did. And that's despite the "big guns" being rolled out this week -- the Association of Chiefs of Police, who would have you believe they speak directly with God.

***snip***

Public opinion is running strongly against the long-gun registry anyway, according to an Angus Reid poll released this week. It shows 72 per cent of Canadians think it is a huge waste of money that does nothing to prevent crime. emphasis added

***snip***

Like most things that purport to be about principle, the gun registry is mostly about the money. It's just another petty racket being run against taxpayers, this time by police administrators.
http://www.windsorstar.com/opinion/Gunning+cash/3453094/story.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:32 PM
Response to Original message
13. Ah, yes. Another Democratic stronghold leads. With its chin. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DongHa69 Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. And us Dems
wonder why we get hammered on the 2nd Amend issue although it has gotten better over the years, now if only they would remove gun control from the Dem platform.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. That is, IMO, one of the reasons we have "Forums: Guns." nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 01:20 PM
Response to Original message
17. Registration is just bait for collecting more taxes.
No gun confiscation, just collect an annual fees for your civil rights.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 10:47 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Guns Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC