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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 06:23 AM
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Not Mine - LTTE “Legality of open carry undisputed” Montgomery Advertiser - Alabama
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20101001/OPINION02/9300353/1006/opinion
Unfortunately, Birmingham is not so enlightened about the rights of citizens in Alabama. On July 4, Birmingham officers arrested two people for lawful OC. Since they could not be charged with violating any Alabama firearms laws, the citizens were charged with disorderly conduct.

Clearly, the Birmingham authorities know that they are on thin ice. The charges have been dropped for one of the two. Unfortunately, they are proceeding against the second.

Kudos to the Montgomery Police Department for researching the issue and officially recognizing the lawfulness of OC. Shame on the Birmingham PD and prosecutors for using the disorderly conduct law to circumvent the right to keep and bear arms.

Joseph Hanlon
Montgomery

Alabama also issues CCW permits. A county sheriff has broad discretion on the issue of those permits however I personally know three sheriffs and they do not abuse their authority.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 08:26 AM
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1. because the 2nd amendment does NOT prohibit carry/use of guns on airplanes :-) nt
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 08:36 AM
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2. I frequently carry guns on airplanes.
When I was in Alaska, state law required I have one in the airplane. But don't worry, you're unlikely to ever have to ride in any airplane I fly.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 08:45 AM
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3. Once again you are showing the world that you have no idea of the law.
If, and when you have a reasoned, logical idea, please let us know. These anti-2A rants are so child like that I believe that you are a 10yr old.

Federal Law prohibits the CARRYING of firearms on a commercial aircraft. It does not prohibit the possession of a firearm on a private aircraft.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:21 AM
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5. Historically.
The carriage of firearms aboard commercial aircraft by the flight crew was required by the US Post Office regulations. This included commercial air carriers and STAR mail contracts.

Lindbergh's autobiography notes that twice during the 10 months that he flew CAM-2, Lindbergh temporarily lost "custody and control" of mails that he was transporting when he was forced to bail out of his mail plane owing to bad weather, equipment problems, and/or fuel exhaustion. In the two incidents, which both occurred while he was approaching Chicago at night, Lindbergh landed by parachute near small farming communities in northeastern Illinois. Aside from his concern in securing the mail from the wreckage he also worried about losing the Post Office issue revolver during the parachute jump.

Aside from the mail requirements, until a quiet change in 1986, both FAR Part 121 for scheduled air carriers and Part 135 for on demand charter and air taxi operators, the decision and authority to arm flight crews was with the certificate holder, NOT the FAA.

Anyone who flew through the 50's and 60's can tell you, the Captain in the left seat on most airliners had grown up driving B-24's across Germany in 1942 and most likely had a pistol in his Jepp bag. Things have changed so much that now in order to "allow" flight crew to be armed on the flight deck after 9/11 they had to make them Federal officers to placate the anti-gun ninnies. They were worried pilots would only be concerned with saving themselves in the event of a hijacking.

At the risk of overstating the obvious, if they don't make it, YOU don't make it. You have to wonder about the lunacy of someone who gets their knickers all in a twist because an airline pilot might shoot a hijacker with a handgun, yet expect that very same pilot flying an Air Guard F-16 on the weekend to use an AIM-9 to shoot down the hijacked airliner.

Even greater irony, they are unconcerned that the Air Force issues him a pistol. Who is going to force their way into the cockpit of a single-seat fighter in flight?



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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 09:32 AM
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4. I do not understand why you make these asinine comments. Whats the deal?
I mean, really, what is your point for making these types of asinine, ignorant posts?
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 03:25 PM
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7. Repeat a lie often enough, and... Apparently this is not disruptive, though.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:25 PM
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8. How can inflammatory, no-response posts be non-disruptive? WTF?
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 09:53 PM
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9. There is a bit of art to it
But it helps to be right .
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 03:23 PM
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6. You can't "use guns on airplanes..." They must be checked in, unloaded...
but you can carry guns to airports to check them in. This has been the case for generations. Done it myself.
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Mandell Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 01:29 PM
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10. ...and your luggage gets special treatment....
I know a guy that travels with a gun all the time. His luggage is inspected by TSA, sealed, hand carried to the plane, and generally treated far better than ordinary luggage because if it turns up missing there's hell to pay. Everything goes into his bag, even the laptop. It's NEVER lost.
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:39 PM
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11. Packing & the Friendly Skies by Deviant Ollam
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/ollam1.html

From Deviant's site, click on the video for a presentation he did at a Con. His language does get a bit colorful as he is drinking during the presentation. Very informative and a bit funny too.
http://deviating.net/firearms/packing/
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Witan00 Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 09:16 PM
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12. The subject confused me,
when I see "LTTE", I think of the Tamil Tigers:P
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