2-year-old girl shot by brother

[onehandle]

Authorities in Moffat County say a 2-year-old girl was shot by her 4-year-old brother in an apparent accident.

The shooting occurred Monday evening and involved a large caliber handgun. Sheriff's Department Investigator Jeremy Ashton said the gun was left in an area accessible to the children.

He told the Craig Daily Press the girl is expected to recover from her injuries.

Authorities are investigating exactly how the boy got the gun. The owner of the gun could face charges depending on what they find.

http://www.nbc11news.com/home/headlines/2-year-old_girl_shot_by_brother_in_Craig_104438244.html

[slackmaster]

1. All kids should be taught basic gun safety in public school, at taxpayer expense

That way when they grow up and become parents, they have no excuse for doing something as insanely stupid as leaving a loaded gun unattended when there are children in the house.

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. What else should they be taught at taxpayer expense?

How far should this "at taxpayer expense" go?

[slackmaster]

3. Swimming lessons for everyone

That's all I can think of, other than what's being taught in public school already.

[cleanhippie]

20. As far as it needs to to ensure safety and responsibility.

Especially when exercising rights.

[lawodevolution]

24. If it saves one life teaching gun safety in school is worth it

[TheCowsCameHome]

25. That's not what I asked.

I asked what else at taxpayer expense. What's the limit?

Boater safety? Driver safety? Ski safety? Archery safety? Bicycle safety?

If the NRA or anyone else wants to teach safety courses, let them do it at their expense, with funding from their organizations.

Generally speaking, taxpayers are tapped out.

[slackmaster]

26. Basic gun safety can be taught in one hour

Wouldn't it be worth trading an hour of analytical geometry or French Renaissance poetry for that?

[TheCowsCameHome]

28. Not trading - in addition to.

Get the pro 2A groups to volunteer to do the safety courses.

And any other group that wants to teach a safety course, for that matter.

[lawodevolution]

27. If the government is going to

Consider gun control legislation using the argument that gun accidents are a problem then yes they better teach gun safety in schools given that there are about as many guns as people in the USA and they aren't going to disappear. The reason they claim gun accidents are a problem yet they don't teach gun safety is because the political elites still hold onto false hope that they can remove guns from the homes of the average citizen with slow progressive advances in gun control, I hope now that they understand that gun control is a dead fad that they will teach gun control in the schools.

I'd add driver safety in there as well.

[jsamuel]

4. he was 4, not kindergarten age yet

[slackmaster]

7. Please read the body of Reply #1, not just the Subject line.

:rofl:

[we can do it]

5. We Don't Teach Kids To Think For Themselves, But We Should Teach Gun Safety

[slackmaster]

8. Good schools do teach people to think for themselves.

The two subjects are far from being mutually exclusive.

[X_Digger]

14. And age appropriate teaching for this would be.. NRA's Eddie Eagle..

"Stop. Don't touch. Leave the area. Tell an adult."

[slackmaster]

16. My point here is that the failure occurred when an ADULT left a gun unattended

I'm giving that adult the benefit of the doubt by assuming that he or she was not properly trained in gun safety. That is a common problem, and having public schools take up the slack created by parents who are unwilling or unable to teach gun safety would cover everyone in a generation or so.

Education doesn't work in every person every time, but giving everyone the opportunity to learn would maximize the effect of teaching.

[X_Digger]

17. Oh I agree..

Start with Eddie Eagle, then move on to more complex concepts as appropriate. But even if the parents hadn't had gun safety, EE might have helped here.

[slackmaster]

18. I think leaving a 2-YO and a 4-YO together with no adult present is asking for trouble

There are certainly multiple parental failures here, and I don't have a lot of confidence in the ability of the Eddie Eagle program to teach a 4-YO not to touch a firearm.

[Glassunion]

19. I agree...

I have a few nieces and nephews who are at that age.

I honestly think that if left alone for more than 5 minutes, they would successfully conquer and occupy either Canada or Mexico. Given 20 minutes all of Europe.

[slackmaster]

21. A couple I know left their young daughters, 3 and 5 IIRC, alone for 20 minutes once

They went next door to talk to their neighbors briefly.

By the time they got home, their girls had put all of the family's eating utensils in the toilet, and drawn all over the living room walls with multiple colors of crayon.

The parents never did that again.

[Glassunion]

6. .

http://www.kcautv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13270278

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. And what?

Teach farm safety? Or?

[Glassunion]

13. There should be an outright ban on all farms everywhere.

It's for the children.

[RSillsbee]

10. What message am I to take from this post?

What point are you trying to convey? That an accidental misuse of a firearm is sufficient reason for me (Who keeps all his firearms under lock and key unless actually in use) to turn all my weapons in?

[slackmaster]

11. There is no message. It's just another drive-by "current events" post that belongs elsewhere

Or maybe you're supposed to absorb the message "Guns are bad, mmmmmmkay?" through osmosis.

:hi:

[RSillsbee]

12. In all seriousness

I don't even see a codification of beliefs from the anti side of the house. Unless, "Guns are teh EEEVIL" qualifies.

I don't see an reasoned argument to back up their position and no solutions offered other than "Make guns scarce'. ( How in the HELL does one accomplish that?)

After reading several of their posts and witnessing debate strategies that can only be called dubious (and that's generous) I'm forced to conclude that we are witnessing a knee jerk, involuntary reaction to something they don't understand and therefore fear

[shadowrider]

15. Get used to it.

1. Guns are evil
2. Guns and ammo must be made scarce and turned into collectors items
3. Registration of all weapons

rinse and repeat. It's all you hear.

[Katya Mullethov]

29. Which in a nutshell explains

My penchant for long winded ,carefully worded, and thoughtful arguments .

[proteus_lives]

22. Ban accidents. It's the only way we'll be safe.

[ZombieHorde]

23. Sometimes the best solution is the obvious solution.

I am going to tell my kids about the new house rule, no more accidents!