Store clerk kills intruder on first day at new job

[oneshooter]

Flint Police say a Quik Stop clerk is in shock after she shot and killed an intruder at the Flint store on Davison Road.
It happened Monday night around 11:00 p.m. as the clerk worked her first full day at her new job at the store.
Police say the man jumped through the front window. The woman told detectives she didn’t know if he intended to rob, rape, or kill her. She had no where to run or hide, so she pulled out her gun and shot him.

More here: http://www.connectmidmichigan.com/news/story.aspx?id=525135

I wonder if her boss gave her the next day off, with pay.

Goblin down, nobody else injured, good job.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[Taverner]

1. Goblin?

[krispos42]

4. Yeah, I'm not liking the term either.

Too much like "spook"; i.e., a black person

[Taverner]

5. I've never heard it used before

Is it racist? Sorta racist?

[krispos42]

8. "spook" is racist. It's a grade above "n****r", maybe.

I think TV shows use it when they can't use the n-word. I think it was used on a TV police show I saw a few months ago when the flashbacks were in the 60's in the Deep South, where a northern civil-rights worker was murdered. I think at some point the racists surrounded the civil rights workers and screamed "spook-lover" at them, in lieu of "n****r-lover".

[Alameda]

9. it was years ago, now Spook means an covert agent...like CIA....

....it is an odd thing to say in the story context When ever I've heard the word it was in reference to some sort of covert agent.

[krispos42]

14. I think it still can mean both, even if it's not used much for black people anymore.

:shrug:

[spin]

16. "Spook" is a term commonly used for highly classified programs and agents ...

as in Jerry works on a Spook program.

Don't ask me how I know this.

[lepus]

27. I luv ya spin,,,,

Spook is so eighties for dark ops.

Unless your a member of the club, you do not get to learn the new slang.

Yeah, used to work odd jobs for three letter agencies.

[SteveM]

44. I've never seen "goblin" as a racist term -- just one denoting a vicious punk.

[onehandle]

7. It is racist. Another word for 'mongrel.' nt

[oneshooter]

10. Goblins are green. n/t

[SteveM]

45. LOL!

[oneshooter]

11. Proof ? n/t

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[slackmaster]

17. If "goblin" must be some kind of slur, it has to be a slur against short people

I've always thought of goblins as small and mischievously evil.

Being mischievously evil is a choice. Being small is not.

[friendly_iconoclast]

21. He'd still be a goblin if he was the secret love child of Pat Boone and Anita Bryant.

And the recently deceased Mr. Walker certainly met the qualifications to be a goblin. Quoth the article:

The man killed has been identified as 38-year-old Derrick Walker. The 250 pound man, who is 6’4” tall, is a parolee with a long criminal history, including larceny, assault on a police officer, and assault with intent to rob.


Would you feel better if we had called him a "alternative shopper"?

[Paladin]

31. And The Dead Man's Ethnicity Was....What?

And spare us any "his race doesn't matter" cop-out answers, OK?

Bonus question: What terms would be used at your local gun range for the dead guy? Would "goblin" be in the mix? As always, extra points for an honest response.

[friendly_iconoclast]

38. Trying to gin up some controversy, are we? Doesn't seem to be working

In point of fact, I don't know what ethnic or racial group(s) our vitality-challenged victim of society belonged to.


"Goblin" in this context simply means "violent career criminal". Nothing more, so save your carefully cultivated public outrage

for a more appropriate subject.


And as for your bonus question:


I'd have to venture a guess, as I have never visited any of the local gun ranges and I haven't owned a gun for 20+ years.

Funny thing how stereotypes can prove to be illusory under examination, eh?

[SteveM]

46. HyperPunk? Blowhole? Stink-Butt? Trash? Thug-a-matic? Scum?

And of course Goblin. I will confess that "Trash" could be seen as derogatory toward white people, but there aren't too many objections to that, are there?

[jazzhound]

37. "Would you feel better if we had called him an

alternative shopper?"

:D

Gettin' some grins in The Gungeon today.

[Name removed]

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[Bold Lib]

24. Um, no. It means goblin. Look here.

[PavePusher]

32. TERMINOLOGY

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goblin

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/goblin

"Goblin" is not a racist term, unless of course, you can cite to evidence. In which case I'll apologize profusely. But I won't hold my breath.

It is a word that has had a long association with criminals, regardless of their genetic derivation.

Throw that card again without evidence and see where it gets you.

[east texas lib]

35. Hmm, not seeing the connection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goblin

A goblin is a legendary evil or mischievous creature, described as a grotesquely evil or evil-like phantom. They are attributed with various (sometimes conflicting) abilities, temperaments and appearances depending on the story and country of origin. In some cases, goblins have been classified as constantly annoying little creatures somewhat related to the brownie and gnome. They are usually depicted as small, sometimes only a few inches tall, sometimes the size of a dwarf. They also often are said to possess various magical abilities.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongrel

Mongrel refers to mixed ancestry:
In botany, a mongrel may refer to the offspring of varieties of a species which was in contrast to a hybrid
Among pets, one whose parentage is of unknown or mixed breeds as opposed to purebred
Among humans, mongrel and mongrelize are derogatory terms for the mixing of "races", known as miscegenation



The use of the term "Goblin" in reference to criminal activities has no racial meaning. It simply means criminal. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Lighten up, Francis.

[X_Digger]

36. He'd be lost without poutrage! n/t

[east texas lib]

41. Why that's poutrageous!

The very idea! ;)

[LAGC]

39. It must really get your goat that a woman is able to defend herself.

Someone that size could easily have over-powered her, even without a weapon.

*Maybe* all he wanted was the money, in which case, sure, just give it to him. Not worth a life.

But how can you be so sure what he intends to do once he gets close enough to get his hands around her throat?

Bottom line is: getting shot is an OCCUPATIONAL HAZARD for that line of work (robbery).

Shame on you, onehandle. You should know better.

[oneshooter]

40. He does, but he just doesn't care. n/t

[proteus_lives]

23. Means felon, attacker, intruder.

Not a racial term.

[Taverner]

28. OK - sorry - didn't know

[Pavulon]

47. Used By Col. Jeff Cooper, that is the first place I saw it

and never heard it associated to race by him.

[DesertFlower]

2. good for her.

[tularetom]

3. The job's gonna seem pretty dull to her after that

[shadowrider]

29. I wonder if she went back for day 2 n/t

[littlewolf]

6. good job ...

[RSillsbee]

13. Maybe you should call the bad guy an Orc

Maybe that would be more PC

[shadowrider]

30. I beg to differ. Orc's are bloodthirsty killers with no regard for human life

Taking what they need, permission need not be asked.

Oh, wait. Nevermind.

[provis99]

15. so what's a Hobgoblin then?

A Texas-sized Goblin?

[slackmaster]

19. I think that's s portmanteau of "hobo" and "goblin"

Little evil fucks who hope freight trains.

[oneshooter]

33. Wouldn't that be a "Hoblin"? n/t

[slackmaster]

18. Tragic waste of life

Goblins are people too.

[petronius]

20. Maybe you're joking, but that's how I feel about the term

Even if the intruder made all the wrong decisions and the clerk made all the right ones, demeaning slang for the deceased are in poor taste IMO...

[one-eyed fat man]

43. Maybe in reference to criminals shot by their erstwhile victims.

arguing about whether or not shit-head should be hyphenated is enough.

Robbing people at gunpoint is in bad taste, don't you think? It is a damn poor lifestyle choice! I do not want to hear the apologist crap about bad economy, feeding starving children, disadvantaged youth or the other psychobabble bullshit used to try and rationalize that some low-life deliberately CHOSE to get money by hurting, maiming, terrorizing, robbing and and stealing from innocent people.

A 6 foot 5, 250 some pound predator physically assaulting a minimum wage clerk for the pittance in a convenience store till deserves to die. Goblin, shithead, thug, I don't care what you call them. Except for the wailing women on TV saying how he was "a good boy who loved his Momma and turning his life around and never hurt nobody 'cepting that other time he went to prison...." I daresay the gene pool got a little bleach.

[petronius]

49. That's fine, you're not required to adhere to my standards of good taste

This dead fellow will certainly never rob anyone else ever again. However, if you think there's a purpose to be served by insisting on calling him names, that's your business. Your manners are entirely your own...

[oneshooter]

34. They just are not good people. n/t

[RSillsbee]

42. Actually they're not

Goblins/Orc are descended from elves

[lynne]

25. Hello . . . it's Halloween . . . would the story have been different if the word "Warlock" was used?

Or Jack-O-Lantern or Demon? Actually, I think Demon would have fit very well.

Nothing like obsessing over something that has nothing to do with the original post and missing the OP's point entirely.

[spin]

48. Warlocks are male witches ...

Warlocks are, among historic Christian traditions, said to be the male equivalent of witches. Likewise, in traditional Scottish witchcraft warlock was and is simply the term used for a male witch.<1>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warlock

The urban dictionary definition of a warlock is:

Warlock

Despite modern neo-Pagan offense taken by some at the word, "warlock" has for centuries simply meant "male witch" in common English usage. Claims that the word originates solely from an old word for "traitor" are erroneus. In extant Medieval records, male witches are often called "warlock" by Christian persecutors and judges. If one of its' meanings is indeed "traitor", then it is reasonable to assume that oaths broken were Christian oaths, and that "warlocks" were perceived as being "traitors" to Christian values and society.

Many modern day male witches are reclaiming "warlock" as a positive word of power and ancient imagery, even as the word "witch" was reclaimed in years past and recast in a rightfully positive light. These men know that many who make sweeping statements about witchcraft speak only for their particular coven or tradition and not for all, despite assertions to the contrary.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=warlock

The urban dictionary definition of a goblin is:

goblin

class of gangster above a goon. rich,, powerful, yet still from the hood. killing on others below them and has much more authority. usually the head of gangs and has much protection, but always loyal and always keep it real.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goblin

Perhaps the best term is "perp".

perp

perpetrator, one who a police officer suspects of a crime
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=perp

[RamboLiberal]

26. Well good for her

As a female I sure hope I never have to work in one of these Stop and Robs and if I did I'd carry whether my employer allowed or not. Life is worth more than a damn near minimum wage job!

And yeah, I think you should've kept goblin out of the description.