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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 07:29 PM
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Toy gun on school grounds nets suspension for fifth-grader.
Toy gun on school grounds nets suspension for fifth-grader

By MATT CAMPBELL and JIM SULLINGER
The Kansas City Star

A Sunday game with a spring-powered toy gun has earned a Shawnee Mission fifth-grader more than three months at home.

Alyssa Cornish has been suspended until January after she admitted that she and several other children were playing with the gun on the playground of Santa Fe Trail Elementary School, which she has attended since pre-K.

Now the straight-A student who was elected to the student council is barred from her classes, her Halloween party and even from Girl Scouts because they meet on school grounds. Her picture won’t be in the school yearbook because she missed photo


Cornish and her daughter say they understand the importance of a policy against real firearms at school, but they believe the district is arbitrarily applying that to a toy gun.

The district’s policy, which is modeled on state law, includes a prohibition against any weapon that can expel a projectile. That policy applies to the entire week, not just weekdays while school is in session. Neal said it also applies to pellet and BB guns or a toy that looks like a real weapon.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/10/27/2362464/toy-gun-on-school-grounds-nets.html


Unfortunate, but not surprising.

Anyone care to speculate how an incident like this one might shape a childs views on authority, guns, arbitrary rulemaking?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:19 PM
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1. yeah maybe she will learn that guns are not toys and playing gun at school is not a good idea nt
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 08:20 PM by msongs
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:21 PM
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2. Yeah! Should have tazed the little shit just to drive the point home. Nt
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:30 PM
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3. Mentally omitted this part did you?
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 08:33 PM by beevul
"Cornish and her daughter say they understand the importance of a policy against real firearms at school, but they believe the district is arbitrarily applying that to a toy gun."

First, has the child shown in any way, that she thinks a non-toy-gun IS a toy?



Second, a toy gun IS still a toy, even if its a toy gun.


The rational world awaits your certain-to-be rational response.


"playing gun at school"

I love the smell of equivocation in the morning.

Not.



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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 01:19 PM
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7. Right up there
Edited on Fri Oct-29-10 01:43 PM by one-eyed fat man
with kid sent home from school with teeny tiny plastic Army men glued to his hat. I am curious, is that level of stupidity a natural talent or does it require years of dedicated practice too?

Boy's army hat violates drugs and weapons policy at US school in Rhode Island



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=322009&mesg_id=322009

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8585070&mesg_id=8585070

Yer knickers all in a twist yet???
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 04:16 PM
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9. Yeah, he can use that time at home to think about how FUCKING STUPID over-reactive people
Edited on Sat Oct-30-10 04:16 PM by cleanhippie
can be when they send a 5th grader home for THREE FUCKING MONTHS.......

and then those same pepole can complain that kids are not getting a good education.


What. The. Fuck.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 04:46 PM
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10. Oh, it's just that "and/or fear" thing, scrubbed up for prohibitionists. nt
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:29 PM
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6. Those are dangerous
You could put someone's eye out with one.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 03:10 PM
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8. An old rant on zero-tolerance and toy guns.
I also learned from my post from "WildEyedLiberal" that girls also did and do indeed enjoy the past time as well as is shown in the OP.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=302286&mesg_id=302286
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Zarya Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:12 PM
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11. Going too far in labeling dangers
I don't know if it's entirely arbitrary, though I will say it's overextending itself. Perhaps, it's not simply the guns themselves, but the concept of guns overall, that they are opposed to. If the rule is against all guns of any kind whatsoever, toys included than that should be specified. It's not much arbitrary, as spontaneously applying the regulations to something that isn't stated upfront clearly. Sure, a toy gun is still a gun, but it's really still just a toy.
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