Shot-By-Accident Daily Journal

[struggle4progress]

Family and Friends

Hearing Postponed For Man Who Was 'Goofing Around,' Shot Girlfriend
Marcus Raynor Charged With Involuntary Manslaughter In Aliquippa Killing
POSTED: 10:25 am EST December 14, 2010
UPDATED: 11:57 am EST December 14, 2010
... Marcus Raynor, 30, is charged with involuntary manslaughter in the Dec. 7 killing of 32-year-old Simone Cox at the home they shared in the 200 block of Fourth Avenue in Aliquippa ... http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/26128931/detail.html

16-Year-Old Girl Wounded In Accidental Shooting
POSTED: 6:49 am PST December 14, 2010
UPDATED: 8:04 am PST December 14, 2010
... Investigators said several other juveniles and at least one adult were at the home and are cooperating with police ... http://www.kptv.com/news/26128266/detail.html

16-year-old girl dies following Saturday shooting outside Enumclaw
By ENUMCLAW COURIER HERALD
... A 16 year-old Enumclaw girl died last night (Saturday) after she was shot ... http://blog.seattlepi.com/enumclaw-pi/archives/231571.asp

Parents Charged After 8-Year-Old Son Accidentally Shoots Little Brother
Chelsi Zash
12/13/2010 11:00:17 AM
Updated: 12/13/2010 11:23:29 AM
... Investigators said Jessee's older bother shot him with a .22 ... http://www.digtriad.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=151703&catid=57

Teen accidentally shot by friend
Posted at: 12/12/2010 5:16 PM | Updated at: 12/13/2010 8:38 AM
By: Eddie Garcia, KOB Eyewitness News 4; Taryn Bianchin, KOB.com
... Saturday night the 17 year old was playing video games while his 20 year old friend was cleaning a .45 caliber pistol ... http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S1879174.shtml?cat=504

Girl shot, gang member jailed
By Brian Stanley [e-mail] Dec 13, 2010 12:25PM
JOLIET — An admitted gang member has been jailed after a 13-year-old girl was accidentally shot Friday ... http://heraldnews.suntimes.com/news/crime/2802717-418/quijano-girl-police-shot-accidentally.html

Name released in accidental shooting
... Bobby Parker, 30, was shot once in his right shoulder with a high-powered rifle by a minor family member in his home at about 6:56 p.m. ...http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20101214/NEWS01/12140306/1002/Briefs--Sheriff-s-Office-investigates-burglary-at-Dollar-General--Name-released-in-accidental-shooting--Motion-to-suppress-hearing-set-for-teenager

Fun with Guns

Defendant's health delays trial in Mass. Uzi death
The Associated Press
Tuesday, December 14, 2010; 12:47 PM
SPRINGFIELD, Mass. -- A judge is seeking proof that a former Massachusetts police chief charged in the death of an 8-year-old boy who accidentally shot himself with an Uzi submachine gun continues to face medical problems and can't stand trial ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/14/AR2010121403825.html

It was an accident, your honor

December 14, 2010
Johnson seeking evidence suppression
By BOB GIBBINS Staff Writer
... Johnson has maintained he accidentally shot Hall ... http://tahlequahdailypress.com/local/x1613327654/Johnson-seeking-evidence-suppression

Last Updated: December 14. 2010 1:57PM
Man, 18, gets life in prison for fatal shooting of Oak Park cop
Mike Martindale The Detroit News / The Detroit News
... In an often contentious trial, defense attorney Geoffrey Fieger said Samborski accidentally shot himself during a struggle with Belton ... http://www.detnews.com/article/20101214/METRO02/12140391/1361/Belton-faces-sentencing-in-Oak-Park-officer%E2%80%99s-death

Hunting

Posted on Tue, Dec. 14, 2010
Probe of deer hunter's death centers on Montco lawyer
By Larry King
Inquirer Staff Writer
An investigation into the Nov. 29 shooting death of a Bucks County deer hunter is centering on a Montgomery County lawyer who was cited for careless hunting in a previous shooting accident ... http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20101214_Probe_of_deer_hunter_s_death_centers_on_Montco_lawyer.html

Teen accidentally shot while running wooded trail
MATTAPOISETT, MA (CNN) - A teenage track athlete was accidentally shot in the leg by hunters while running ... in an area clearly marked with "no hunting" signs ... http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=13667210

December 13, 2010
Iowa Man Shot in Chest By Hunting Partner
A 19-year-old hunter in Iowa accidentally shot another hunter in the chest with a shotgun ... http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/hunting/2010/12/iowa-man-shot-chest-hunting-partner

Self-shootings

Local Man Injured In Accidental Shooting
A man who shot himself in the abdomen as he stood outside a residence holding a loaded handgun escaped serious injury, police said Monday ... http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/Local_Man_Injured_In_Accidental_Shooting_111805869.html?ref=869

Man accidentally shot in foot while exiting bed
By AMY LEIGH WOMACK - [e-mail]
A 54-year-old Macon man accidentally shot himself in the foot while getting out of bed Friday ... http://www.macon.com/2010/12/14/1376924/man-accidentally-shot-in-foot.html

Fort Myers man accidentally shoots himself while cleaning gun
LEE COUNTY: After being called to a domestic disturbance Sunday evening, Lee County deputies found that a man had accidentally shot himself in the shoulder ... http://www.abc-7.com/Global/story.asp?S=13664812

Man Hospitalized After Accidental Shooting
By Jeff Skrzypek & Gia Vang
SPRINGFIELD, Ore. -- A Springfield man was rushed to the hospital after investigators say he accidentally shot himself while cleaning a loaded gun ... http://kezi.com/news/local/197558

Deputies investigating accidental shooting
Article published on Monday, Dec. 13, 2010
DUNEDIN - A Dunedin man, who accidentally shot himself while cleaning his gun Dec. 9, is recovering from his injuries, according to the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office ... http://www.tbnweekly.com/pubs/dunedin_beacon/content_articles/121310_dun-01.txt

[X_Digger]

1. Use the search, Luke..

You would have found quite a few of these stories previously posted.

In other news.. 299,999,980 other guns not used to harm anyone. Film at 11.

[DonP]

2. Oh Goodie! Another "Guns in the News" poster

Is this the 6th or 7th poster (or 23rd?) to decide that posting a series of pointless stories that involve guns, either directly or peripherally via crimes, accidents etc., will somehow magically further their cause and change minds and hearts of a majority of the citizens to support gun control?

Since the last couple of attempts we've had some states go from permits to constitutional carry, violent crime has hit a 35 year low and we've had three years of record gun and ammunition sales. Wisconsin is about to get CCW, Obama signed several pro gun bills, the Brady Bunch stopped any pretense of having actual members and the NRA membership hit 4.5 million+ dues paying members. We've won Heller v DC and McDonald v. Chicago in SCOTUS. Hell even little Richie Daley has finally given up and is quitting.

Keep up the good work. By the time this one gives up and tears his hair out, we may have the 1934 class III restrictions repealed.

[Straw Man]

3. Another adherent...

...to the quaint belief that "data" is the plural of "anecdote."

[struggle4progress]

4. It's what's the news over about the last 24 hours

[friendly_iconoclast]

15. By that logic, Bristol Palin was the most important person in the world for about a week.

Try again.

[sharesunited]

5. Clear and convincing evidence that guns and ammo are a menace.

And should vigorously be discouraged from proliferating.

[Katya Mullethov]

9. I will admit , " Vigorous Discouragement " is intriguing

I would try it , but I'm afraid I might like it .

[Straw Man]

18. Surely you misspoke...

Clear and convincing evidence that guns and ammo are a menace.

And should vigorously be discouraged from proliferating.

...and realize that inanimate objects cannot be "discouraged" from anything.

Or maybe you don't.

[ileus]

6. Holy Cow this is bad....we need more gun laws.

In other news what are you looking for this weekend at the funshow?

I bought a new generator last night so that blew my gun budget, but I think a few magazines for my AR's and a new grip are in order.

I'd like to find some Aguila 22LR but I doubt that's possible.

My daughter (8) want's a pink 22 so we may look for one.

My wife won't carry a handgun so I think we're gonna invest in a kimber pepper blaster for her.

My 6yo son well there's nothing he doesn't want...

[cleanhippie]

7. Was there some point you were trying to make?

Or are you just showing off your goggle skills?

[safeinOhio]

8. Just anecdotes and mean nothing

unless they support an ideology.

But, these anecdotes mean something :silly:

Official: Man killed robbery is 'potential suspect' in shooting spree along Ill.-Ind. border

Sheriff: Ga. Man Shoots Robber

Mexico news - Ranch owner defends self, property from cartel

Coffee chain chief supports barista

Police Officer Rescues Woman From Burning SUV by Shooting Out Window

Armed wife saves her husband from a violent home invader

[AtheistCrusader]

10. No, they don't.

In fact, several of your list were viewed as a net negative.

[safeinOhio]

11. That was my point

They were all posted by gun people to show how guns save lives. One even by someone complaining about how the originals post mean nothing. I was pointing out it is another case of the pot calling the kettle black or what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Sorry I left out the :sarcasm: thing. All were titles of recent post on this forum. All were anecdotal stories about guns saving someone. I thing there are really more stories of guns killing innocent people. However, the zealots never take the big picture in, on either side.

[AtheistCrusader]

12. Some of us 'gun people' are critical of anecdotes used in either direction.

That was more my point.

[spin]

13. It's an anecdote unless it hapens to you. (n/t)

[AtheistCrusader]

14. Still an anecdote.

[friendly_iconoclast]

16. True, but posting anecdotes can serve a purpose perhaps not intended by the poster

Specifically, the responses of the reader can be rather revealing, and say more about the reader than the events in the anecdote.



Who discusses rationally? Who (to put it bluntly) acts out? Who takes anecdotes as 'proof' of whatever theory it is that they

are peddling?

[Euromutt]

19. Anecdotal evidence can serve a legitimate purpose, namely to disprove a rule

A rule, in this case, meaning any statement that claims that something always happens, or never happens. For example, if someone claims that "all swans are white" or "swans are never black," all it takes is one black swan to prove that person wrong. Anecdotal evidence is useless for telling how often something happens, but it does tell you whether that something does or does not happen at all (e.g. that one black swan doesn't tell you what percentage of swans of swans are black, but it does tell you it's not zero).

And that's the difference between the "guns used to do harm" postings on the one hand and the "guns used to avert harm" on the other: none of the pro-RKBA "usual suspects" denies that guns are sometimes used to commit violent crimes, so evidence that they sometimes are doesn't prove the pro-RKBA crowd wrong. By contrast, the "guns used to avert harm" postings do effectively counter arguments along the lines of "guns are only good for killing" and "nobody needs to carry a gun in public, and even if the need did arise, they'd never manage to use it effectively." Note the underlined words indicate absolutisms.

[Katya Mullethov]

20. Hypothetical

Do you tag him while the barrel is still vertical or wait until he actually starts shooting people ? Hypothetically and anecdotally of course .
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/crime/2010/12/14/vo.fl.school.board.shooting.WMBB.html

[Euromutt]

21. Hypothetically?

Hypothetically and anecdotally speaking, the moment the guy raises the gun from the barrel-down position at his side is the moment I would start shooting and keep shooting until he stopped moving. Hypothetically.

[Katya Mullethov]

22. And strictly anectdotaly

I would give the other cat a 5 outta ten on his "Please don'ts " . I wasnt feeling that at all .

[PavePusher]

17. You do believe in evolution, don't you?

Why would you want to take the tools for it away from those who wish to practice it?