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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 12:10 PM
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How does one even carry a rifle or a pistol without brandishing ?
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 12:15 PM by Katya Mullethov
I hear different versions of this query , and with it being so intricately woven into so many squabbles, felt it in need of some clarification . For me , the friction comes from a difference in perspective .
Growing up in rural South Texas and having just caught the tail end of the ward schools , an image like this says to me.
"You've come a long long long long long way baby ! " He is a full citizen and is not required to mock up or shut up anymore .

And seeing as how black folks weren't even allowed in the Mexican ward schools where they were shitting in a box (1) not 30 feet from a sewer main* , I see his photo and can't help but grin . He is a citizen like me , I wouldn't shoot me . Neither will he . So I grin . To immediately assume otherwise is irrational and illogical but justifiable bigotry to me . Even if he were an avowed "Maoist Fuckstick" , intent that we only need 100 million people to run this country so "a few" (2) will have to go . I would still grin as we are still truly free . Imagine if he were to do that in Progesso even before La Violencia .

Here is one not 500 yards from my house , in the right foreground . Our glazier now lives in the white high school in the background . 4 rows of brick , 15 foot ceilings and his wife is completely enamored with it . Ironically enough they are Hispanic and had no idea about "the rest of the story" until I filled them in . It got a little misty , but I dont think they noticed as I pretended to sneeze .


On to perspectives , or more importantly , the cubist perspective recently employed .One could crop his head from a photo taken from an angle where his hands are obscured , and then blink the photo on the boob toob every 15 minutes , for days , while basting it with breathless racist innuendo . This will lead those more tightly strung to come to a completely different conclusion . Drug along by their noses in fact . It is pity as I was curious if his eyes had been aligned with the vertical as well .




The difference to me in brandishing and carrying becomes a matter of stowage
See above for lawful carry and below for " brandishing" . A very old concept .


Smoldering cannon fuses in your hair are strictly optional.


footnotes and a correction
(1) I have photos of said shitter and sewer main as well ,if need be . It is completely full so I have to make a correction ,as they were shitting on the ground , not in a box .
(2) I don't grin long , especially if it turns into "kill they babies"
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 07:16 PM
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1. MLK Day kick
We surround you !
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 07:21 PM
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2. It still amazes me, with the cropped photo (not showing skin color)
how many people immediately assumed it was a white guy obviously threatening someone.
Good on whoever used the entire photo.

Gun rights belong to all. I have NO fear of anyone, of any color, of any background who is legally carrying. Hell, I don't care if they're a Georgia Tech fan (Bless my Dawgs). The 2nd belongs to all.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:25 PM
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3. They immediately assumed
Because it was stuffed into their melon by the speaker of their Teeveeeee .
That pre-revolutionary reformation think ain't selling for shit is it ?


They were like WTF ?
And we were like lol !
And then they were like WTF ?

They really dont get it either . Which is cool .
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:45 PM
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9. Grew up in Kennesaw. Mom worked for a college buddy of Ted Turner.
We got some amazing seats at Yellow jackets games...

Don't hate me. But, I still think Uga(spelling?) is the most adorable mascot ever.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:00 PM
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4. As I understand it, "brandishing" means holding it in a manner that it can be readily used
For a firearm, that means holding it by the grip, in a manner that your finger can reach the trigger. For a blade, it means holding it unsheathed by the hilt. The photos illustrate it perfectly.

A weapon carried holstered, slung, sheathed, or by a part from which it cannot be operated (e.g. the forestock or the carrying handle on a non-flattop AR) isn't being brandished.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:40 PM
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5. You can brandish in Texas then
Breathless sensatioanlism aside , just FFW to 1:00 -1:18 for the example of alleged brandishing .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLhMP4qCsCQ
It may add to the drama , but bobbing and weaving aside , would you detain and issue a summons for this ?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:57 AM
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6. "Brandishing" is a legal term that has specific meanings in different places.
Here in PA, there is no such crime as "brandishing". It is just another lame, pointless anti-gun talking point with no basis in reality.

mark
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 04:04 AM
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7. Here in PA, there is no such crime as "brandishing"
while that is true, its also false. they cant charge you with brandishing, but they charge you with disorderly conduct and terroristic threats. Those are the catch all laws that they can fit to almost any need.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 08:24 AM
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8. You can be charged with "terroristic threats" if you yell at someone
Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 08:25 AM by old mark
over the phone...It is one of those things the police can charge you with if they want to fuck with you, but it is not specifically a "gun crime"...


mark
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