Since the republicans are so pro-gun,

[FeebMaster]

maybe someone could point out which gun laws they've repealed now that they control the house, the senate, and the presidency.

Personally, I've never considered republicans, in general, to be pro-gun. Just look at the last two republican presidents.

In 1986, Reagan signed the Firearms Owners' Protection Act (probably the most hilarious name ever for a law up until the patriot act) which banned future civilian production of machine guns.

In 1989, Bush the elder signed an executive order banning the importation of forty-three types of semi-automatic rifles that allegedly have no "sporting purpose." For that matter, Bush the elder has been grabbing guns since before a lot of us were born. He did vote for the Gun Control Act of 1968, after all.

Yeah, that's pro-gun.

[randr]

1. You would think that by now

the Democrats would have figured out that every nut case that commits a crime with a gun is a "Willy Horton" gift delivered directly from the Republican gun lobby.

[MrSandman]

5. IMO, the anti-gun message

of well-known Democrats should be a cause for alarm for the party at large. While the GOP is little better in substance, they do not have the anti-gun lightning rods. In the border states, National candidates have been able to lessen the effect of the two other large cultural issues, gay rights and abortion rights. Even at the state level, politicians can usually remain mute on these topics if needed. However, the shrillness of the anti-gun message, the outspokenness of its proponents, and the endorsement of national FOID cards, lost WV, eastern KY, TN, and AR to Gore in 2000.
OK, I exaggerate, maybe not all. He only needed one of them. I was in WV in 2000. It was the first time the state went GOP since 72. A lot of local Democrats lost in the same election.

It keeps getting posted what a minority gunowners are. Look at the electoral map. Can the Democratic nominee give away 1/2, even 1/3 of the CCW states? MI? FL? OH? PA? TN? WV? WI?...

[alwynsw]

6. The gun control group knows no party lines.

It's that simple.

We witness the ignorance of the antis on a daily basis in reading, hearing, and watching their attempts to demonize firearms of all kinds.

May I remind the group of the Feinstein photo on a recent thread? She was doing a press conference against guns (I think), while holding an AK - finger on the trigger and the muzzle pointed into acrowd of people.
Or the CA cop pwho said a .233 just goes on forever?

Fear is most easily instilled in the ignorant. Many folks are ignorant about firearms, their uses, and their capabilities.

Please don't confuse ignorance with stupidity.

[MrSandman]

7. Agreed,

But the "ignorance" of the politicians who make national news on the anti-gun issue are a lightning rod for politicians willing to mouth an RKBA message. Even though the RKBA vote may have hurt in 2000, the RKBA voters did not get a lot. Many are trying to find an alternative.

BTW, I have seen pics of "RKBA politicians" with gun safety issues. Pro-RKBA will not point this out quite as boisterously, evidence the fact I KNOW I have seen but don't remember WHERE.

[MrBenchley]

11. Too TOO funny for words...

"the "ignorance" of the politicians who make national news on the anti-gun issue"
Yeah, too bad Chuck Schumer, Carolyn McCarthy and Dianne Feinstein can't measure up to the lofty intellectual level exhibited daily by pro-gun churls like Trent Lott, Tom DeLay and John "evil chemistry" AshKKKroft....

Somebody get the RKBA crowd a clue.....

[MrSandman]

13. OK, while so-called pro-RKBA politicians

take small stands without substance to deflect criticism in the border states while making statements to maintain plausible deniability of "soft on crime," e.g., POTUS's pledge to sign an AWB, what do the three you listed do to assure those in RKBA states the ours is not the party of confiscation?

[MrBenchley]

21. Who the hell are you trying to kid?

Who but the dirt-ignorant KKK Krowd are pretending their guns are about to be confiscated?

[slackmaster]

24. About 1,500 people in California have received letters from the state

Ordering them to surrender or dispose of SKS Sporter rifles.

It's possible that some of them are also KKK members, but I doubt that would account for much of a percentage of those individuals.

[MrSandman]

27. Didn't one of the intellectuals of yours...

promise if she had the vores, she would have had all gunowners turn in their so-called assault weapons. That plated really well in '94.

[MrBenchley]

44. The Contract on America......

It's instructive to see the sort of horseshit the gun nuts admire openly....

[MrSandman]

131. No I don't think...

it was the Contract on America.

[MrSandman]

14. Another Question

Are they willing to force the nominee to have to spin their stories in the South and border states?

[MrBenchley]

22. Peddle it to somebody

who gives a crap what Trent Lott's racist supporters want.

[MrSandman]

28. Look at an Electoral Map...

Someone should care.

[MrBenchley]

45. You really want to pander to simpletons

who hate blacks, jews, gays and uppity women?

There's a party already doing that.

[MrSandman]

101. And look where they do it from

[MrBenchley]

121. So who's keeping you here?

Clearly it's more important to seize power than to have principle to some people. If you want to suck up to Trent Lott's constituency there's a party already waiting for you..

[MrSandman]

132. Well, actually,

I thought that standing for the freedom to choose was itself a principle.

[MrBenchley]

135. Hahahahahahahaha...

<sarcasm>Yeah, just look at the principled figures peddling "gun rights" in public....Mary Rosh, Trent Lott, Sun Myung Moon, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, John AshKKKrroft, Jebbo Bush, Dick Cheney....

[MrSandman]

15. Another Question

What is the intellectual thought behind a national FOID?

[MrBenchley]

23. I doubt anyone

celebrating the intellectual achievements of Tom DeLay and Johnn AshKKKroft could follow it.

[MrSandman]

30. Did someone metion the intelectul achievements of...

any politicians. Oh yeah, that was you.

[MrBenchley]

33. You were the one who brought up the subject....

but since you want to talk about ignorance let's bring up pro-gun Tom DeLay, who thinks evolution is wicked...

[FeebMaster]

35. Speaking of pro-gun Tom Delay,

has he introduced legislation to repeal any federal firearms laws?

[MrSandman]

37. Or Trent Lott

[MrBenchley]

40. A sterling example of pro-gun thought at its best

racist, ignorant and venal....

Yup, you boys are in great company with Trent and Tom. See if you can find some other "pluses". Such as "They're pro-gun, and they're also anti-woman"....or "they're pro-gun and they're anti-environment."

And they'd cluck-cluck-cluck sympathetically if you want to piss and moan about taxing ammo or FOID regulations. Yup, the gun rights cause truly is the scum of the earth's concern.

[MrBenchley]

41. More on your pro-gun pal, Trent Lott

And it even begins with a gun being used....

"Perhaps the CCA’s most infamous member was Byron De La Beckwith, who murdered civil rights leader Medgar Evers in 1963, with the CCA raising thousands of dollars for De La Beckwith’s defense. In its newsletters and monographs of the time, the CCA typically ranted about black intellectual inferiority and criminality, and inveighed against interracial marriage, Jewish plots, Catholics, the left and the federal government.
The CCA’s successor, the CCC, embraces most of the same issues dear to the older group, though it additionally targets Latinos, lesbians, gay men and feminists-people whose social movements largely came to prominence since the heyday of the former CCA. According to its own officials, the CCC was founded in 1985 using the CCA’s old mailing lists; the CCC’s publication, the Citizens Informer, takes its name from the CCA’s magazine, The Informer. Following a recent trend among some racist-right groups, the CCC soft-pedals, while not completely renouncing, anti-Semitism and anti-Catholicism.
Edsall reported that Lott had not only addressed the group three times in the 1990s, but once, as a keynote speaker at a CCC convention in 1992, the senator had heaped praise on its members. “The people in this room stand for the right principles and the right philosophy,” Lott concluded his speech. “Let's take it in the right direction and our children will be the beneficiaries!" (FAIR pointed out this quote, which appeared in the Summer/1997 Citizens Informer, in a December 15 media advisory.)
Even after the Washington Post article made it clear Lott had a scandal on his hands, few news outlets seemed interested in advancing the story. The newsworthiness wasn’t lost on some columnists, though, most notably Stanley Crouch of New York’s Daily News and Washington Post editorial board member Colbert I. King. Writing some seven columns on the subject, Crouch called for Lott to “come clean” and for Republicans to address Lott's predicament. Crouch also targeted the news media for its apparent lack of interest (12/30/98): “Why is there less coverage of this story--which has real political import--than of sex, lies, soiled dresses and Hustler magazine?” "

http://www.fair.org/extra/9903/lott.html

[FeebMaster]

47. Tell us,

what federal firearms laws has pro-gun Trent Lott introduced legistlation to repeal?

[MrBenchley]

49. Gee, feeb

Guess he seems like a swell guy to you then...

[FeebMaster]

53. I wouldn't know.

I don't know a thing about him. I just figured, what with republicans being so pro-gun and all, that maybe pro-gun republican Trent Lott might have worked to repeal some of the federal firearms laws.

[MrBenchley]

56. Too TOO funny

Former Senate majority leader, the active symbol of racism (now that Jesse Helms is retired and waiting for his trip to hell) and you "don't know a thing about him"?

Maybe you ought to find out something about this humhole before you start sticking up for him.

[FeebMaster]

58. I'm not sticking up for anybody.

I'm just wondering why, if the republicans are so pro-gun, have they not repealed any federal firearms laws?

[MrBenchley]

59. Yeah,, rii-i-i-i-i-i-i-ight

[FeebMaster]

62. "Yeah,, rii-i-i-i-i-i-i-ight" what? (nt)

[alwynsw]

124. Religion expert now?

I figure Jesse's headed that way, but I can't make the statement authoratatively as you have.

[MrBenchley]

136. Helms is a hate-filled piece of shit

and pro-gun all the way...

[FeebMaster]

137. really?

Did he ever introduce legislation to repeal any federal firearms laws?

[MrBenchley]

39. Gee, who's that blocking the AWB renewal?

Who was that talking about getting rid of the Brady Bill? It was that scumbag DeLay.....you must be mighty proud of your playmate.

[FeebMaster]

48. The AWB

sunsets on its own. Talking about getting rid of the Brady Bill? What federal gun laws has pro-gun Tom DeLay worked to repeal?

[MrBenchley]

50. And who's blocking the renewal? Tom DeLay

[FeebMaster]

55. Blocking the renewal?

Seems like sort of an empty gesture to me. I mean how would a renewal get passed by the majority of pro-gun republicans. The pro-gun president probably wouldn't sign it either. But you never know on that last part, I don't think Bush knows how to veto. He hasn't yet.

[MrBenchley]

57. Yeah, DeLay is blocking the renewal

And you didn't know who Trent Lott was either.

[FeebMaster]

61. Like I said

"blocking" the renewal seems like an empty gesture to me. If the republicans are so pro-gun a renewal would never pass anyway.

And I didn't say I didn't know who Trent Lott was. I just said I don't know a thing about him, except that he's "pro-gun" of course.

[MrBenchley]

64. Hahahahahaha....

"I didn't say I didn't know who Trent Lott was. I just said I don't know a thing about him, except that he's "pro-gun" of course."

Amazing....that's all you knew about Trent Lott? And yet you wanted to try to pretend that he was anti-gun....

[FeebMaster]

66. Well,

I know Trent Lott is a republican and apparently republicans are pro-gun, so I assumed that Trent Lott is pro-gun. Then I thought, well if Trent Lott is pro-gun and the republicans have a majority in the house and senate and the president is a republican, well that's certainly a lot of pro-gun republicans. I just thought one of those pro-gun republicans might have introduced legislation to repeal some of the federal gun laws.

[MrBenchley]

69. You mean you think there's some doubt

about Trent Lott pandering to gun nuts?

That's really hilarious.

[FeebMaster]

70. I didn't say anything about Lott pandering to gun nuts.

All I am saying is that if the republicans are so pro-gun, you might expect them to repeal some federal gun laws now that they control both houses of Congress and the presidency.

[MrBenchley]

72. So you're actually trying to spin Lott into being anti-gun?

Nuff said.

[FeebMaster]

75. If he's pro-gun

why hasn't he worked to repeal some of the federal gun laws?

[MrBenchley]

78. Gee, it couldn't be because

the overwhelming majority of voters WANT more gun control, could it?

You don't suppose that's why the GOP insists on these "sunset" provisions in bills (not just on gun control--I suggest you look at the shameful way these thugs killed funding for in-home care and meals on wheels programs for senior citizens), do you? So that they can kill vitally needed popular legislation without actually being caught "doing" anything?

[FeebMaster]

82. What does what the voters want

have to do with anything. They got elected. They're pro-gun. You would think they'd be repealing some federal firearms laws.

Speaking of "sunset" provisions. Back when they passed the AWB, as I recall, there was a fairly large democratic majority in both the house and the senate. Did the GOP insist on the sunset provision in the AWB? Just how were they planning on forcing the issue if they did?

[MrBenchley]

86. Well, that sums it up...

Obviously the dream of every Republican congressperson is to be a one-term loser that the voters hate..

"Did the GOP insist on the sunset provision in the AWB?"
If you don't know the history, I suggest you go do some research.

[FeebMaster]

90. Well it stands to reason

that the people electing these pro-gun politicians would themselves be pro-gun. Why would these pro-gun republicans have to worry about losing an election if they're just doing what they're constituents want?



"Did the GOP insist on the sunset provision in the AWB?"
If you don't know the history, I suggest you go do some research.

It was a little before my time. I would think though, that if the pro-gun republicans were in the minority it would be difficult for them to force in the sunset provision.

[MrBenchley]

92. Too TOO funny...

I think "it stands to reason" might be the funniest thing you've said yet.

So tell us, feeb, why didn't any Republicans CAMPAIGN on the "I'm going to repeal gun control laws" platform, do you suppose?

[FeebMaster]

94. I don't know.

You'd think one of the really pro-gun republicans like Bill Frist might try it. It's a mystery to me.

[MrBenchley]

97. Do you think they forgot?

Maybe that's it.

[FeebMaster]

106. I don't know.

I didn't run any of their campaigns.

[MrBenchley]

108. Why don't you ask them?

[FeebMaster]

110. Like I said

I don't think they'd care what I think.

[MrBenchley]

115. Wonder why that is?

[MrSandman]

100. It is not a renewal...

It is an expansion.

[MrBenchley]

103. It should be expanded and strengthened

It's dangerous to the point of idiocy to allow assault weapons on the street.

[Columbia]

104. You don't even know what assault weapons are

[MrBenchley]

109. Hahahahahahahhaha....

"Yes, no one knows what an assault weapon truly is...except we gun nuts who cream our jeans over them."

[Columbia]

111. I rest my case

[alwynsw]

125. Define "Assault Weapon"

Use a solid reference. I hope you get it right. If you do, it will eliminate many of the erroneous arguments about them.

[MrSandman]

138. MP 44

and weapons with like characterisics...Rifle Cartridge, Full or burst auto capable.

[TyroneStryker]

107. Do you have the slightest inkling as to what

an "assault weapon" is?

[MrSandman]

130. I coulda swore I brought up ...

the subject of a National FOID.

[MrSandman]

16. Another Question

What is the intellectual honesty behind ballistic fingerprinting?

[MrBenchley]

25. Too fucking funny....

It's amazing that the RKBA crowd keeps dragging out this tired old horseshit.

http://www.gunfree.org/content/coalition/coal_ballistic.html

[MrSandman]

133. MD and NY do this, too.

How many crime has it solved?

[MrSandman]

17. Another Question

What is the intellectual honesty behind proposing ammo taxes?

[MrBenchley]

26. Who the hell are you trying to kid?

Why not ask an intellectual like David Duke?

[demsrule4life]

29. Noticed all those

intellectual answers you received?

[MrSandman]

31. I guess that this time

The North plans to secede from the Party.

[MrBenchley]

34. He got all the answers the questions deserved, dems

[1a2b3c]

32. evil chemistry

good one B. Made me smile.

[beevul]

8. This one?

"May I remind the group of the Feinstein photo on a recent thread? She was doing a press conference against guns (I think), while holding an AK - finger on the trigger and the muzzle pointed into a crowd of people."






Selling gun control-at gunpoint.


Nothing like pointing a gun into a crowd of people while preaching how bad they are. Is that an AK or an SKS?

[alwynsw]

9. Thanks!

It's nice to have friends. :pals:

[MrBenchley]

10. Democrat bashing from the RKBA crowd, as usual.

No surprise there....remember the thread the enthusiasts started to talk about "pro-gun Russ Feingold" ended with posts assuring us that every gun nut despised Feingold.

[beevul]

18. Documenting fact with proof is not bashing.

Noone is above scrutiny . Every day in the GITN thread, the careless actions of gun wielders is pointed out. Senator Feinstein is not above haveing her careless actions pointed out.

Only in J/PS is providing documentation and evidence that someone preaching gun control and gun safety did something really stupid with a gun - considered "bashing".

I believe if you saw someone doing what Senator Feinstein in the photo was doing, particularly around kids, yours or not, you would be all over it about how the person was a lunatic asswipe, shouldn't have a gun blablabla anti-gun blablabla. I believe you would be putting it in our faces as an example of why people should not have guns. Why wouldn't you.

But since its an anti-gunner and shes pointing it at reporters ... Well, I don't see any complaints about it. I see complaints of bashing. If I say something like "st00pid Democrat", or "liberal moron "thats bashing. The thing is, I didn't say that, nor would I.

I wonder if you object to her careless actions being pointed out because shes a Democrat, or if it could be another reason...

[MrBenchley]

19. Hahahahahahaha...

Yeah, surrrrrrrrrrrre....

[demsrule4life]

12. AK

One of the biggest things the anti's yell about is safety.

[Withergyld]

20. AK

:shrug:

[Columbia]

2. Blech

Not to mention Sarah Brady was Republican too. :puke:

[slackmaster]

3. She still is a Republican

And so is Jim.

[Columbia]

4. Well then

That deserves one more. :puke:

[FeebMaster]

36. Come on people!

It's been 17 hours. Surely someone could point out which federal gun laws the pro-gun republicans have repealed.

[demsrule4life]

38. None

[Withergyld]

42. They *tried* to repeal the AWB

but were unsuccessful

[demsrule4life]

43. I saw that somewhere

[FeebMaster]

51. None!

I am shocked! Shocked I tell you! You would think these pro-gun republicans would be trying to get rid of all of the federal gun laws. I just don't understand it.

[MrBenchley]

52. Now feeb, tell us you're not really trying to pretend

Republicans are anti-gun.....

[FeebMaster]

54. Well it seems to me

they've done a better job of banning guns then democrats. Bush essentially banned the import of a whole class of weapons in 1989. Reagan ended the civilian production of a whole class of small arms in 1986. Clinton got rid of bayonet lugs and flash supressors and made high capacity magazines a bit more expensive.

[MrBenchley]

60. Is that how it seems to you?

Guess the pro-gunners ain't got a friend anywhere then....except for David Duke and the Aryan Nation.

[FeebMaster]

63. It is.

Guess the pro-gunners ain't got a friend anywhere then....

I guess not.


except for David Duke and the Aryan Nation.

If you say so.

[MrBenchley]

65. Gee, feeb, Duke and the Aryan Nation say so

themselves....

[FeebMaster]

67. I wouldn't know. (nt)

...

[MrBenchley]

68. It's not like it's a secret--they trumpet it loud and long

Just as it isn't a secret of who Trent Lott is and what disgraceful things he's been up to.

One has to wonder who would start a debate without even glancing at some basic facts....and why they would do so...

But then one also has to wonder why the pro-gun position depends on denial, distortion and outright deception...or why every racist and scummy right winger who can be found is pushing it in public.

[FeebMaster]

71. Well I don't go out of my way

to come into contact with David Duke or Aryan nations types.

But I do have a few basic facts.

-The republicans have a majority in the house.
-The republicans have a majority in the senate.
-The president is a republican.
-Bush used an executive order to ban import of "non-sporting arms" in 1989.
-Reagan banned civilian production of machine guns in 1986.

oh and

-Republicans are pro-gun.

[MrBenchley]

73. Amazing

Come back when you get a few more facts...such as what Trent Lott's been up to throughout his long disgraceful career.

[FeebMaster]

74. I'm not really concerned with Trent Lott.

There are a lot of other republicans in the senate. A majority in fact. You'd think one of these pro-gun republicans might try to repeal some of the federal firearms laws.

[MrBenchley]

76. Then let's take Medicare thief Bill Frist

Do you think he supports gun control?

"Over the last couple of months, Frist has seized opportunities to remind us of his special loyalty and devotion to his patrons at the National Rifle Association, which persists in the belief that gun laws and gun violence are basically unrelated phenomena. Following Littleton, Congress thrust itself into a "let’s do something" mode, seeking to tighten the nation’s minimalist gun control laws just a notch. Frist, our Senatorial heart surgeon and healthcare multimillionaire, weighed public health and safety against NRA fealty – you can guess how it turned out. He cheerfully supported an NRA-backed attempt to finesse the issue with meaningless, unenforceable new rules, and then joined his Senate Republican colleagues when they were publicly shamed into an abrupt about-face leading to some constructive (if still rather mild) new regulations.
In public statements on his gun control votes, Frist bragged about voting for NRA-supported legislation, and parroted the NRA nostrum that enforcement of existing firearms laws, not passage of new laws, is the key. He spoke of the "18 gun laws violated" by the two young Littleton perpetrators – which is NRA boilerplate right out of their post-Littleton press release play book. Frist and the NRA oppose efforts to regulate all private gun sales and Internet-based weapons transactions, and in general seem to regard any serious gun control efforts as threats to the republic.
As with most purchased goods, you get what you pay for, and indeed the pro-gun lobby pays for Sen. Frist’s allegiance. Recently, the Center for Responsive Politics compiled figures showing how much money pro-gun interest groups are spending on behalf of U.S. senators and representatives. These "independent expenditures" are dollars spent by private interest groups to advocate the election or defeat of a particular candidate. In the six-year period ending with the 1998 election, gun rights groups (dominated by the NRA) spent more money – $277,227 – on Bill Frist’s behalf than on any other member of the Senate except one. (Can you guess which one? Why, it’s Tennessee’s other gun lobby toady, Fred Thompson, coming in just $15 higher than Frist at $277,242!) "

http://mba.vanderbilt.edu/bruce.barry/columns/inrev_990608.html

[FeebMaster]

77. Frist sure looks pro-gun

has he introduced legislation to repeal any federal firearms laws? It would probably be easy to get it passed what with all of the other pro-gun republicans in office.

[MrBenchley]

79. Gee, feeb...

Why don't you write and ask him why he hasn't? Maybe he just hasn't thought of it..

Wouldn't that be a glorious day for the RKBA crowd? The corrupt Republican party doing just what shitheels like the Aryan Nation want!

[FeebMaster]

83. well

he isn't my senator. Besides, I don't think he would listen to me.

[MrBenchley]

87. A knowledgable guy like you?

Ask him "What does it matter what the voters want?" He'll really be impressed.

[FeebMaster]

95. I'm a little confused.

So you're saying that republican voters are pro gun control, but they elect pro-gun politicians. Then, these pro-gun politicians have to be careful about what kinds of gun control they try to do away with because they don't want to risk alienating their pro gun control base.
Do I have that right?

[MrBenchley]

98. Hey

You convinced me. Nobody thinks gun control is a bad idea except a handful of loonies that neither party wants.

I mean, you were the one trying to imply that the GOP wasn't pro-gun, right?

[FeebMaster]

99. Basically

I'm glad we could come to an agreement.

[MrBenchley]

112. Always glad to have another pro-gun control person like yourself

Hope you do some research next time.. you really ought to get an idea what someone like Trent Lott has been up to in his odious and disgraceful career. Name a public question, from the environment to corporate crime, and you'll find he's been pushing the ugly side of it.

[FeebMaster]

113. Oh, I'm not pro-gun control.

I was agreeing with you that neither party really wants gun owners. The republicans seem to get a lot of their votes by default, though, since everyone seems to think that they're pro-gun.

[MrBenchley]

117. Well that is hilari-I mean, tragic.

I feel your pain.

[FeebMaster]

118. I'm sure (nt)

...

[demsrule4life]

81. Remember Feeb

don't fall for the baiting, keep your cool, keep your cool, keep your cool. You are doing pretty good though.

[MrBenchley]

85. Yeah, dems...

By now I'm sure almost anybody with an IQ below 10 believes that the GOP is the party of gun control....

Of course this thesis, if true, would mean that the pro-gun position really was of interest to only a handful of loonies that neither party really wants to claim, and I suppose there must be a good reason why the RKBA crowd is trying to advance this argument....I just for the life of me can't figure out what it could be. Maybe to show that the only thing "gun rights" has going for it is the corrupt gun industry's blood money?

By the way, since your buddy doesn't seem to know anything about Trent Lott, why don't YOU tell him? I'm sure being a Democrat from the South you have lots of juicy stories about what a scumbag he is.

[demsrule4life]

89. Done told you I'm from Indiana

I'm on temporary duty to the south thanks to Uncle Sam. So don't know very much about the prior KKK type politicians down here.

[MrBenchley]

93. Gee, so that means

you don't know anything about Trent Lott either?

[alwynsw]

126. And here I was beginning to like you and I find out your

a Yankee...a DAMNED YANKEE! And a HOOSIER at that. I need to go wash my hands.

end faux rant

[demsrule4life]

129. Well I havent been there since 79

do I at least lose half my yankeeish? :)

[alwynsw]

139. If you eat grits every day and twice on Sunday,

swear that there is nothing better than a barbecued pork pig sammich with a longneck beer, and go barefoot all day, every day between Memorial Day and Labor Day, you will go far in losing that Yankee taint.

[demsrule4life]

80. Why not since some of the

most sweeping gun control laws in the past 20 years have been by repugs.

[FeebMaster]

84. yeah

what are bayonet lugs, flash suppressors, and increased magazine prices next to essentially banning an entire class of small arm.

[MrBenchley]

88. yeah

guess neither party has much use for gun nuts.

Better write the gun lobby and tell them to get their blood money back.

[RoeBear]

46. I've had the privilege of voting for...

...Two very pro gun Democrats; U.S. Rep John Dingle and U.S. Rep Jim Barcia both of Michigan.

[MrBenchley]

91. Well I'm convinced by the eloquence and logic of this argument

Guess neither party wants anything to do with the specimens that parrot that gun rights crap.

Democrats would be fools to try to pander to a bunch of people the GOP don't want anything to do with.

[FeebMaster]

96. gee

Democrats would be fools to try to pander to a bunch of people the GOP don't want anything to do with.

Are there any other minority groups the GOP don't want anything to do with that the Democrats would be fools to pander to?

[MrBenchley]

102. We're not talking about minority groups...

Certainly the GOP tries openly to pretend it wants to reach minority groups. Racist Trent Lott even went on Black Entertainment Television after his Strom Thurmond birthday fiascco and talked about the need for affirmative action...but I don't think he fooled anybody.

But you can't count deluded fools with a gun fetish as an actual minority group of some sort. They're just a bunch of loonies neither party particularly wants.

Nor should they. I mean, what kind of irresponsible maniac would want to get rid of existing gun control laws, right?

[FeebMaster]

105. Well you said the majority of people

are for gun control. So that would put those that don't want gun control in the minority.

what kind of irresponsible maniac would want to get rid of existing gun control laws, right?

Well, I'd like to get rid of all the federal gun laws, but I don't generally consider myself irresponsible or a maniac.

[MrBenchley]

114. The majority of the people want Social Security and Medicare

but that doesn't make the scumbags trying to destroy them a minority group, unless you want to pretend you're simple-minded and don't understand the way adults speak.

"Well, I'd like to get rid of all the federal gun laws"
Really? Well, why don't you write the Republicans and ask them why they don''t. After all, as you pointed out, they are the majority. And we found that the Senate majority leader hates gun control too. Sounds like he'd be just your cup of tea.

[FeebMaster]

116. I'm pretty sure

that the republicans could repeal the laws on their own, without my input, if they really wanted to.

[MrBenchley]

119. I don't know

you're the one who seems to think there's some sort of mystery about why they don't....maybe they just forgot and are waiting for a handy reminder?

After all, the NRA never ever ever sues to overturn any gun control law on Second amendment grounds, although if the crap they spout about it were even remotely true, every gun control law in the country would be unconstitutional. They often sue on other grounds though. Maybe they forgot there WAS a Second Amendment while they were going over the papers with their lawyers....

[FeebMaster]

120. Maybe

republicans, in general, aren't pro-gun.

Why would the NRA want any gun laws overturned? The entire organization is funded by people concerned about more gun laws being passed. It's hardly in the interests of the NRA to get rid of the laws that help to bring in all of those donations.

[MrBenchley]

122. Wow...so the NRA is anti-gun too......

Better hide under the bed...sounds like everybody is against you.

[FeebMaster]

123. No one is against me.

I don't even own a gun.

[alwynsw]

127. I can give you a couple so you won't feel left out

Will that be handguns, rifles, shotguns, or a variety pack?

[FeebMaster]

128. Thanks, but

when I get around to getting a gun I'd prefer it be one that's never been in the possession of a federal firearms license holder. For that matter I'd prefer it didn't have any serial numbers on it at all.

[MrSandman]

134. I got a couple of old shotguns.

They are only double barrels, but they fit both.

[alwynsw]

140. I've several that fit part of that description

all but a few of mine have serial numbers. The ones that don't never had one to begin with - they're old, old, old. BUT! They all shoot!
(friggin .32RF at $90.00 per box)

edited to add: Superfly and demsrule4life are poopie heads

[FeebMaster]

141. haha

$90 a box. I can't even afford to build an AK and that only costs around $200.

[davidinalameda]

142. locking