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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:46 AM
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I don't think guns, per say, are the issue but the culture we live in.
Guns have always been around. They are a tool. Sometimes used in war, sometimes for defense but, for the average American in the past, used for hunting. A tool. What is new is that:

The inherent fear in this culture has gone through the roof and people are consumed with worst case scenarios. I chuckle to myself when I read discussions about particular load velocities and stopping power. It seems that people are convinced that if someone broke into their home they need the firepower to stop someone crazed on PCP's. A .38 is too small, maybe 9mm +P, or better yet a .45, definitely hollow points. A highly unlikely scenario where most of us live but the scenario focused on. Not that it doesn't happen but the threat/reality ratio is way out of whack. It's the same with keeping a pistol by your bed with a round in the chamber. The way I figure it is that if I don't have a 1/2 second to cycle a round I am screwed anyway, and if the bad guy happens to hear me put one in the chamber then maybe he will leave and we both avoid a bad outcome. If he doesn't leave then I do what I have to do to defend myself and my family.

The anti-regulation pendulum swing that has made even sensible regulations cause a nuclear response. Hell, even in the "Old West" quite often you had to check your gun when you came into town, or at the least before you went into the saloon. The last thing they wanted was a bunch of drunks walking around with guns. This reaction to any regulation is also based on fear that is amplified by the minions of gun manufacturers to increase sales. There is not a doubt in my mind.

Finally, TV's glorification of shoot em ups. It seems that everyone on TV is armed and has to use that weapon at least three times a show. Once again subconsciously feeding the fear.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:49 AM
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1. Scores of people killed on TV = ok, one nipple-slip = crisis. n/t
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:55 AM
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2. The right constantly demonizes that which it does not favor, then acts offended when
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 09:56 AM by old mark
it is made responsible for its years of spewing hate. They have killed groups of people using any means possible, including fertilizer bombs and propane tanks.

Humans kill, using tools.


mark
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:02 AM
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3. I have a son who hates guns.
More to the point, he hates violence. When he sees it depicted on TV he always takes me to task for it. I'm not even allowed to watch "24" when he's around.

The thing is he can shoot. He enjoys shooting. He owns his own BB gun and understands that we store our arms in the safe when we're not using them. And he understands that sometimes Dad carries a gun when he's out working as a Deputy Sheriff. What he doesn't have is some morbid sense that guns and violence are good conflict resolution tools. Not bad for eight years old.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:09 AM
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4. Violent crime, including shootings, has been decreasing since 1994
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 10:10 AM by slackmaster
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:43 AM
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5. Technology in the hands of one person which can instantly terminate a dozen or more others?
Solely upon a whim?

No thanks. That's not civilization.
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