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titaniumsalute (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:34 PM Original message |
If Gabbie Giffords was packing heat...she'd still would have been shot in the head |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Unless you're trying to argue that defensive driving is a waste of time, |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Haha! What? You make Defensive Drving School sound like they train you for Spy Hunter scenarios. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Perhaps you misunderstood my point? |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I can say this... |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I didn't realize Defensive Driving (with the capitals) was an actual name, |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Wait you didn't know they actually have Defensive Driving classes? |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I thought it was just a catch-all term for being careful. And I missed a 24 joke |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. it is...it is...hang on and I'll pull up a picture. One of my daughter's friends |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. LOL! Looks like they have their priorities in order, at least... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Defensive driving does NOT mean slamming your car into another car |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. He obviously attended the Jack Bauer School for Defensive Driving. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Who said it did? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. You implied that when you made the analogy with defensive driving. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Obviously, "defensive driving" means something vastly different to you than |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 01:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I think it means something similar to both of us -- |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 02:30 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. And you might be able to defend yourelf by... |
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titaniumsalute (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. The point is you can carry a gun (or drive as safe as you want) |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Certainly. But do you not still try to control the variables you can? |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
35. I was able to protect myself w/ a gun |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. You do realize that a false equivalency is, don't you? |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-11 02:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
50. No it isn't. Did you mean this for the OP? (But even there it's just a |
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kudzu22 (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. If she'd had a bodyguard, it could have gone better |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Or not. |
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kudzu22 (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. I said it *could* have gone better |
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. I know exactly what you are talking about. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. We had some friends who were robbed |
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. I hear that. |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-11 02:19 AM Response to Reply #23 |
49. How'd his shoes and pants come off? |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
36. He had a gun but not the will to use it |
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chibajoe (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
39. Sorry to hear that your friends were robbed, but |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. He made a conscious choice, and apparently the dog was worth more than his life. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
53. If anything, that particular anecdote illustrates the uselessness of dogs |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. There were people armed there. One admitted he mistook who the bad guy was and might have shoot the |
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titaniumsalute (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I was in a situation once |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. You have evidence to support that claim? n/t |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. It is useless to try to debate gun people. I guess rationalism is the key to happiness. nm |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. So, no facts or evidence. Got it. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I knew it would get to that level. I should have broken off the discussion earlier. nm |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. What level? The level of actual facts and data... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. The "You... not so much. Good job with the avoidance, however." level. nm |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Well, you did avoid facts, or bringing them. And that's a fact. n/t |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-11 12:37 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Sorry I stepped in the gun forum. Now I need to take a shower. nm |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. And the fall-back to ad hominems. Classic. n/t |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Didn't you just say |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 02:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
26. He was in a store when the shooting happened |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #10 |
54. Ah, the College of It Stands To Reason |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
19. Assasination? No.. robbery? fairly frequently.. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 02:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. +1 there are numerous stories posted here where |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
29. It's YOUR strawman, why complain about it to us? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
33. Who said that about Congresswoman Giffords? |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
37. You could stuff a bomb |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
42. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I had the same problem trying to unrecommend. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
52. It does happen. |
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