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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 07:33 AM
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ATF technical classifications create back door ‘gun control’
Will .22 rimfires fall under new reporting controls? Will CA bullet button system be classified as detachable magazine?

The following was provided to me by a source who has proven reliable over the years. It was given to him by an ATF insider with the specific request to be forwarded to me. I am reproducing it here unedited and in its entirety as I received it:

It appears the new technical experts at ATF headquarters are making another technical determination in their new bid to classify firearms in a prohibitive way. We are all now aware that ATF will be requiring a multiple sales report an all rifles with a detachable magazine and a caliber larger than .220. The rationale for this is to stop assault type rifles going south of the border. It was not very well thought out in the planning stages. But when headquarters personnel make a plan it generally isn’t good and it is implemented and who cares. If ATF was so concerned with monitoring what types of firearms were being trafficked why were the firearms they want to stop not properly described? What are these boneheads really doing? All firearms owners know the .22 caliber rimfire is .224<*> in diameter. So if someone buys more than one Ruger 10/22 is a multiple sale form required? In accordance with the ATF plan it is. This plan also brought up the true ATF anti gun agenda which is what to do about the California bullet button. If you don’t know, gun owners in California cannot own an AR15 that accepts a detachable magazine. A well thought out design was created in which the magazine off an AR15 can only come out with a tool. The magazine release is replaced with a latch with an internal release. A tool called a bullet button is inserted into the replacement magazine release to drop the magazine. In California, the most restrictive state for gun owners, this was defined as not being a detachable magazine. Yet ATF is going to redefine this system. To further the anti gun agenda ATF is classifying the bullet button system as a detachable magazine. ATF has the intention of defining, what a tool is, how much time it takes in the use of the tool to remove the magazine, and the time to install the replacement magazine catch. The reason this is such critical issue is because the ATF experts were watching U Tube and found a young kid rapidly detaching the magazine. If this young kid could do it then it must be a new super device that all the drug cartels will be buying and replacing the normal magazine release on all of their AR type rifles. (Just sarcasm.) In this fervor to prohibit gun ownership by attacking any detachable magazine gun above .220 they never thought about receivers. Under the new reporting instructions AR15 receivers are not regulated, nor are completely assembled AR15 receivers without an upper receiver regulated. I am sure that ATF must know this which lends credence that this is just a new agenda for the ATF gun grabbers. Does anyone believe that if the ATF defines the bullet button as a detachable magazine federally that California will not redefine their law? Sorry California gun owners we really don’t care.

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/atf-technical-classifications-create-back-door-gun-control
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:12 PM
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1. Or perhaps
The lawyers at ATF are just as ignorant as the media when it comes to firearms.
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:28 PM
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2. They are worse!
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:30 PM
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3. Their agents, too..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2sWiZ8BizI

(Notice how he tries to insert the magazine backwards..)
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 06:51 PM
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4. ROTFLMAO!
With minimal effort it could be converted into a machine gun? In what alternate universe?

It's bad enough that the agent is a complete moron and as you mentioned, can't even properly insert a magazine into a toy M4, he flat out lied.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 06:55 PM
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5. You don't understand grasshopper
If he says it, to a largely uninformed audience, they'll believe it and therefore back the legislation to ban them.

He's playing to the ignorant (which is not an insult. Ignorance can be cured through education).
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 07:14 PM
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6. The Taurus 28 looks to be in the tank . No word on the SAIGA 12 today ?
They probably meant next January anyway .
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