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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:47 AM Original message |
Another question for gun control proponents |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. The two lonely exceptions that prove the rule? |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. We often hear "One gun death is too many, guns must be banned" |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. You beat me to it. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It's almost as if |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
26. I notice this also |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Don't cut yourself with that machete. |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. wrong, the mass murder in nigeria in which 500 people were killed |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
75. no need to use their guns against unarmed people. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
78. They didn't want to be effective, they wanted to be terrorizing. |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. In all fairness |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:44 AM Original message |
In gun-land, mass killings never mean anything, and occasional gun defense means everything |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
29. Here's a mass killing; "Over 500 killed in Nigeria sectarian clashes" |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
66. Wrong. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. So we can count on you to call out OPs like this as meaningless "isolated incidents," then? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Dupe |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
70. Yes you are NT |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. "two lonely exceptions"? You haven't even tried looking, have you? |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. No more than school shootings prove the rule. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. Easy. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Quite the opposite... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Link, please. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. A few |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. CCW wouldn't apply in this case, would it? |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Nice try yourself... CCW would have had to apply in this case. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I stand corrected. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I spent some time growing up in a city... Please do enlighten me as to what the alternative is. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Right after the Supreme Court's landmark ruling. What a coinky-dink. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Funny, but after the "Landmark" ruling, not one single law in the city changed. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Self Delete |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Self Delete reply to Self Delete. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I just had something not nice to say and decided to not say anything at all. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I've enjoyed our discussion |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. -- SNORT -- |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Oh, it wasn't about you. |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
77. That's partially true |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
7. Here is a story that just happened yesterday |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. The unarmed "women" is stupid. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Like shoot the SOB and save taxpayers from feeeding him n/t |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Rock on cowboy. nt |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
31. lol. any man who beats a woman with a crow bar should be shot dead, but those men who |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
63. How about anybody who would beat anybody with a crow bar? |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. agreed, if someone is willing to beat someone with a crow bar, then a bullet to their head would be |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Tragically stupid? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Or shot the next door neighbor, who locked his keys inside his apartment |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Well, he was obviously there willing to harm her. This is a FACT not speculation. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. If it was so obvious, why did she approach him? |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. if the homeowner was there |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. Okay. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
62. And there you have it: blaming the victim of a violent crime |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Well that was her fault. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
19. Not sure of the rules here |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Actually, a 75-year old female can use a firearm just fine. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. At least one can. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. And what do you propose for those who do not pass your test? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. They don't get the fucking gun. Duh. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Going to answer the second half of the question? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Boo hoo. And you're going to ignore these people? |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. STRAWWWWWWWWWWWW MAAAAAAAAAN |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. How hypocritical...you want to deny kids their A2 rights. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. First.No one is a citizen in the United States. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. P.S. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. He does have a good habit of ignoring the tough questions or thorough answers to his. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I think this thread shows this guy has no game.... |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. So we now base the questioning of rights on age? |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. But could THIS one |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. This is a misrepresentation of the position. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. Well, they asked the question |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I agree if the matter is one of whether or not THIS is a good example. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. Generally I agree |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
22. Gun control is not the same as gun prohibition as pointed out above |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Pinata control vs gun control |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
24. Facinating. |
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DWC (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
38. "The Gun Is Civilization" |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I'm not afraid, just "not unafraid". |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Law is nothing but monopoly on violence. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Laws only protect the rich and well-connected, do they? |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Again with the mischarcterization. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. If you are going to post this, at least give the correct author. |
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DWC (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. Correction |
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