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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:05 PM
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Deadbeat Wayne LaPierre Passes The Hat
An e-mail forwarded to the Brady Center...

"Just as you learned from viewing the Brady Campaign's new web site www.stopthenra.com, our response ad offers shocking proof that the Brady Campaign, the anti-gun media, Hollywood, and Senators Kennedy, Schumer, Clinton, Feinstein and Lautenberg will do and say ANYTHING to bring gun owners to their knees and ban and confiscate our guns! You and I have no choice but to answer their blizzard of lies with the TRUTH...."
(paging Mary Rosh, hahahahaha! By the way, which party do those Senators belong to again?)

Check this out....

"a.. First: NRA will print this ad in the major publications seen by congressmen - - Roll Call, The Hill and The Washington Times"
(Say, isn't there another newspaper in Washington called the Post? Thought it was pretty big.....)

"b.. Second, NRA will print this piece in major hunting and shooting magazines..."
(Funny, the Brady Center can run its ads in publications meant for the entire public, like the New York Times.

Wonder why the NRA can only run its propaganda to such a narrow group? You would think they'd want to reach the larger public if they had facts and a real case to make, instead of their usual bunch of idiots, wouldn't you?

It couldn't be because the average American knows what a bunch of lying hate-filled loonies the NRA really is, could it?

For that matter, it couldn't be that Wayne means he's only going to run the ads in his own magazines to save money, could it?)


http://www.stopthenra.com/site/PageServer?pagename=wayne&JServSessionIdr007=7mae37ncx1.app14b

For reference:

"As a result of expensive legal, legislative, and political crusades, the National Rifle Association (NRA) finds itself with a $100-million deficit, the New York Times reported Dec. 21.
The NRA has spent the money fighting the new campaign-finance bill, helping to elect Republicans to the White House and U.S. Congress, and lobbying for laws in more than 30 states to protect gun-makers from lawsuits."

http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/summaries/reader/0,2061,568313,00.html

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:41 PM
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1. Dontcha..................
just feel soooooooo sorry for these guys? $100 million in the hole so they can buy a government that protects their right to have semi-automatic weapons to even the playing field between themselves and those bloodthirsty forest creatures.
I own guns, but there is no earthly reason for a person to own some of these weapons. I've never belonged to the NRA, nor will I ever. They've outgrown their usefullness and have become so corpulent and greedy their membership will continue to wane.
It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys.
LaPierre is a horses ass.
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Romulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:57 PM
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2. please see my "sniper rife/assault weapon" thread
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 12:58 PM by Romulus
to see where this whole debate will be headed in a few years . . .

"Sniper Rifle? Assault Weapon? You Decide!"

"I own guns, but there is no earthly reason for a person to own some of these weapons."

The problem being, whatever firearm you own is considered "the wrong firearm/'those wepaons'."

(edited to add link)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 01:52 PM
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3. Amen to that
No less an authority than Jeb (the other white meat) Bush says the Nuts Ruining America are responsible for this unelected drunk...and I think America ought to be reminded of that every day.
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 02:35 PM
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4. Paging Mr Benchley
hahahahaha! By the way, which party does Sarah Brady belong to again?

could it be..... REPUBLICAN!
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 02:42 PM
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5. Paging Mr Spoonman
Name ONE Republican candidate that Sarah Brady has actively campaigned for.

And contrast that with the number of GOP campaigns (on all levels of government) that have benefitted from the Nuts Ruining America.
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 02:54 PM
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6. Hmmm... having trouble reading the question
It's simple, is she or is she not a registered REPUBLICAN?

Hint..... YES SHE IS!!!!
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:01 PM
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7. Hmmmm ...having trouble separating vital info from fluff
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 03:06 PM by CO Liberal
Does she ACTIVELY WORK for the ELECTION of REPUBLICANS??????

Well???????????

Hint: NO SHE DOESN'T.

Face it, Spoonman...you're grasping at straws here.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:05 PM
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8. She was a humble housewife before 1981
In her own words:

"My ambition, growing up, was to be June Cleaver. I wanted to be a wife and mother, to have a happy, peaceful home filled with the laughter of family and friends, to watch my children grow up surrounded by the same warmth and security I knew as a child."

http://www.agoodfight.org/note.asp

Does that make her any less of a Republican?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:19 PM
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9. Earth to Spoonman, Earth to Spoonman.......
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 03:24 PM by CO Liberal
Come back to us.......

BTW, Spoonman - how many Republican candidates have received financial support from either the Brady Center or the VPC? Compared to the number who have received money from the Nuts Ruining America??

Sarah brady's political affiliation had nothing to do with it - you just hate her guts and want to smear a woman who has sufferred for years because of one asshole with a gun.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:46 PM
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15. Donations from gun control groups from 1990 - 2004 so far
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 08:53 PM by slackmaster
Total $1,597,246, $1,431,121 of which came from PACs. $98,251, or 6% of that, went to Republicans.

See http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.asp?Ind=Q12

The Brady Center has apparently never donated more than $5,000 during any election cycle beginning with 1990. I haven't found any source to show they have ever donated to a political candidate.

The only institutional donors for gun control appear to be the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence and Handgun Control, Inc.

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/indusclient.asp?code=Q12&year=2000

For gun rights contributions, the total for that period is $17,065,608, with PACs donating $12,060,660. $14,496,820, or 85% went to the GOP.

See http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.asp?Ind=Q13
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:09 PM
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16. In Other Words...
Contribute to a gun rights group, you support Republicans.

Contribute to a gun control group, you support Democrats.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:18 PM
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23. I think you've oversimplified it
Most donations related to gun control or gun rights come from individuals, who may also be making donations to other interest groups or to individual candidates.

If you want to ensure that none of the money goes to the opposition party, you should make your donations to individual candidates rather than lobbying groups. Or if you place a higher priority on the issue than on parties go ahead and donate to a PAC or lobbying group.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:29 PM
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24. And I Think YOU Oversimplified Things, Too
Just because Sarah Brady is a registered Republican does NOT mean she supports everything the GOP does. In fact, I'm pretty sure there are a number of rank-and-file Republicans out there who consider her an embarrassment to the GOP.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:35 PM
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25. I never said she did
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 10:37 PM by slackmaster
Why do some contributors get so upset when it is pointed out that Mrs. Brady is a Republican?

Just because Sarah Brady is a registered Republican does NOT mean she supports everything the GOP does.

Yes, reasonable people of both parties have been known to have specific views that deviate from the mainstream. I think it's normal and healthy for individual voters to pick and choose every issue and candidate on merits rather than blind obedience to a party line.

In fact, I'm pretty sure there are a number of rank-and-file Republicans out there who consider her an embarrassment to the GOP.

You can be sure of it.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:28 PM
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10. Gee, spoon...
As Iverglas pointed out, not only do the Brady Center's donations go to Democrats, but the Democrats who get those donations are pro-reproductive choice and pro-environment. Not so the NRA, which tends to donate only to anti-chopice adn anti-environment shitheads.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:02 PM
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11. Don't Confuse Him With Facts, Bench...
His mind is already made up.

:-)
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:19 PM
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12. Thanks for the update.

Dear NRA Supporter,

As I write, our enemies are bombarding Congress with a blizzard of lies that portray you and me as bloodthirsty bigots bent on flooding our streets with terrorists, cop-killers and armed criminals ...


Geeee, I didn't know LaPierre lurked in J/PS?
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:28 PM
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13. LOL
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:33 PM
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14. Bloodthirsty bigot
Sounds like Ted Nugent...fits him to as "T".

AS for who's lying, it's says volumes that nutsy Wayne can't take his message to the Washington Post and puts his gibberish in gun manufacturer Sun Myung Moon's far right wing propaganda sheet.

For those unaware, the Washington Times is edited by lying Wes Pruden, who has ties to the neoConfederate movement...and published by Sun Myung Moon, who finances the money-losing paper out of his cult funds, recently told his followers how much he was looking forward to exterminating gays in the near future.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:35 PM
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19. Nahhhh... My body is my temple.
I don't do drugs... just like Ted Nugent.

Although, on occasions I will get a buzz from some high-octane bore solvent.

:silly:
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:37 PM
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20. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Hoppes #9
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:53 PM
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21. My range box and "gun room"...
is a pharmacopeia of mind inducing inhalents and solvents. Never mind the BATFE... It's the DEA I'm worried about.

It's only a matter of time before the anti-gun types wake up from their slumber and want to legislate your precious Hoppes #9 for the sake of the children.
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:59 PM
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22. Then I have to fool them with
some FP-10, nice Cinnamon smell for those with sensitive noses.
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