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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:15 AM Original message |
Second Amendment Liberal |
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JasonDeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. I see no problem with qualified folk owning guns yet |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. You missed the point of the entire article |
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JasonDeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. No, I agree and disagree with the article. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Interesting |
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JasonDeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. No, the 2nd is the only one needing modification. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
40. There is more of a danger... |
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DavidMS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #40 |
73. I doubt the second amendment had anything to do with tryany |
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alwynsw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
100. Read a bit deeper into the various papers and memoirs of the founders |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #73 |
102. Yes, please do some historical research |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 10:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
69. Actually, you were right the first time |
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1a2b3c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. If it isnt an individual right |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Individuals have owned pants and shirts |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. And your point is... n/t |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 07:05 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Obvious. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I suspect that individuals will continue to legally own ... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 07:09 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. That's true.... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
70. You'll notice... |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Maybe in NRA leaflets |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Miller? |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I post case law |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Right. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. And you follow up with more hyperbole |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. I just hope |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. If you're going to read an Amendment |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I can read just fine. |
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alwynsw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:30 AM Response to Reply #28 |
39. If the Second Amendment is dead, so should the rest of the |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:36 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Why amend the constitution? |
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alwynsw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Why amend the constitution? |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Oh? |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:42 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I agree |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
64. True, but... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Supreme Court Trivia. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. You've studied your NRA leaflets well |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. nra leaflets, that's good. (nt) |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Supreme Court Trivia II |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. There isn't one. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. ... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:07 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Charlton Heston haha. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. All you've done so far |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:12 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. gun lobby talking points? |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. And are you unfamiliar with the principle of |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Hey if you want |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. And if you want |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:29 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Yeah. |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. For that matter, |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:17 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. It wasn't 16" it was 18" |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:20 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. oops |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:29 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. The whole point of the NFA |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:31 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Yes |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #24 |
71. In fact, |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Supreme Court Trivia 2. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Supreme Court Trivia III |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. The Jolly old NFA of 34 (nt) |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Supreme Court trivia 3. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Supreme Court Trivia IV |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Why it was a short barreled shotgun. |
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alwynsw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Quite a few actually |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:48 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I am shocked. (nt) |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
47. Miller was alot closer to WWII |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:49 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Yes. Well I doubt |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Well, WWII began |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:03 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. The US wasn't in the war at the time. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:18 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I guess that depends on your point of view |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:22 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Fine, whatever. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:30 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Ok, so to sum up, your points are |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:34 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Yes I think Miller is a bad decision. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. You might be interested to know |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Actually, |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Oh, yeah, that's right... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I thought we had come to the agreement |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. No, what we said |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Well if all they're doing is spouting rhetoric |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Well, as we agreed, |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I suppose so (nt) |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #50 |
72. You will notice |
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alwynsw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
99. There's a fair number of fowling pieces that were modified by various |
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MrSandman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
81. I know they were not... |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
65. Literal reading... |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
74. The court in Miller referred to the prefatory clause as a declaration. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. In that case |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Are pistols in common use? |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Yes, they are still part of the military issue and certainly useful for |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. And what were in common use |
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brothermak (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
52. ? |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:10 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Back in the day, |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:22 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. What a pity |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:28 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Right. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:31 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. If nukes are outlawed |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:40 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Yes. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:44 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I can handle those terms |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:44 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. No right is absolute. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 05:03 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. McFeeb's Law |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 05:05 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I'm not willing to compromise on McFeeb's Law. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 05:19 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Question, Feeb... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:20 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Who knows? |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #68 |
80. Besides, |
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alwynsw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
101. I like it! |
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MrSandman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
2. At least he got it right about... |
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alwynsw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
33. So. The question that begs to be asked: |
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laidbackkid (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
86. NRA nuts disagree with word "allowed" |
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alwynsw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Curious |
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MrSandman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. And governments killed ... |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-04 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
103. locking |
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