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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 02:56 AM
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11 y/o drug from his home in hand-cuffs... For drawing a stick figure... With a gun...
Brought to you by: Zero Tolerance Gun Policies.

I'll admit that the kid does sound like he has mental issues, but come on... Really? Arrested? For drawing a picture on paper?

I don't know... Maybe we should insure the child is getting the help he needs and if he is safe to be around other children and his teachers perhaps?

Nah, let's arrest him instead.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1359646/Boy-11-arrested-drawing-stick-figure-gun-writing-Teachers-die.html
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Loudmxr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 03:32 AM
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1. I agree. These days an 11 year old should be able to draw a definable gun. Glock, Colt, whatever!!!
It just goes to show you our over paid teachers are not teaching the right stuff. Like good gun maintenance and design. :hide:
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 03:46 AM
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2. Ha!
Or maybe they need to untie the knot in their undies...
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MyrnaLoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 03:54 AM
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3. This post could be seen
as misleading. I can see it from two directions; one, he drew a stick figure with a gun, two, he drew a scene depicting violence against his teacher. For me it was more about the threat of violence and not the NRAs wet dream of a child drawing stick figures with guns being cuffed and locked away. No, this is about the threat of violence, the results would have been the same if he drew a club or knife.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 03:58 AM
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4. I agree... To my point do you think he should have been arrested? Or
do you think the school should have insured that the child has the help he needs?
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MyrnaLoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 04:07 AM
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5. not sure
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 04:16 AM by MyrnaLoy
because there is a huge gap in that article. Re-read and you'll see. The school decided it was no big deal, notified the parents and that was that. Very next line, he was "cuffed and hauled off". It seems very likely that something happened during that missing time, between the school decided it wasn't a threat and when he was "arrested". The verbiage used in this article is purposely used to inflame, is this a Murdoch paper?

Fast forward in the story, to the part where, after the "arrest", the police contacted the school and THEN the school decided it was a threat. It is very plain to me there is a missing piece.

On edit, in researching this story it begins to stink even more. Juvie records are sealed, this story happened in Oct and the only people talking are the parents.

"A juvenile assessment report shows he's never been in legal trouble before and is at low risk to re-offend.

He's charged with a third degree misdemeanor, interfering with staff and students at an educational facility."
http://www.wsbt.com/news/ktla-stick-figure-arrest,0,4400262.story
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johnroshan Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:21 AM
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7. Thought police. Orwell was indeed prophetic.
A 11 year old draws a stick figure with a gun - Gets arrested and imprisoned.

Meanwhile, A tea party ADULT asks "Who's gonna shoot Obama?", threaten congressmen with gun sights on websites, use violent rhetoric to whip the people into a frenzy. - Walks free, consequence of the freedom of thought, speech and expression.

Stop censoring thoughts!

Its a mad world I say.. a mad mad world.


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MyrnaLoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:55 AM
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10. let me answer your question with this
Colorado law enforcement officials announced Wednesday that a 12-year-old Burlington boy has been taken in custody in connection with the deaths of his parents and the critical wounding of two siblings.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/03/02/colorado.boy.slayings/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 06:29 AM
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11. Except
Edited on Thu Mar-03-11 06:34 AM by pipoman
it is only where minors are involved, who don't have full civil rights, are there preemptive arrests made. There is some leniency given juvenile prosecutions because they are expunged at 18. As an adult, say a female who has been threatened by a significant other, police nor prosecutors will do nothing until an actual crime has been committed. They will advise getting a restraining order, a civil action (not criminal). Then will do nothing on reports of violation of the restraining order unless a police officer actually witnesses the violation of the order. Ultimately the person who acquires the protection order must be harmed before anything is done to the order violator. If an adult drew a stick figure of himself shooting his wife it would be considered free expression.

For the record, I strongly oppose any form of preemptive arrest/prosecution...
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Mybrokenchains Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:56 AM
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6. Are they sure it was even a gun?
the kid could have been practicing the alphabet through creative means....
in a world where you arrest an 11 year old for a picture, it is entirely feasible that the picture was a stick figure handing a letter L to another stick figure -.-
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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:46 AM
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8. 54 years ago
that would have been me. Catholic elementary school allowed few outlets for anger and frustration. Up to 60 students per teacher forced strict discipline.

My opinion is that the cops ought to have their asses kicked up to their shoulder blades.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:27 AM
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9. Better to use crayons or a magic-marker.
Less chance of getting hurt.
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