I think it is time we repealed the Gun Control Act of 1968!

[old mark]

The Act was put into effect to establish Federal control of interstate gun sales...it set up the requirement that guns sold from one state to the next MUST pass through the hands of licensed gun dealers-FFL holders.

As a consequence, I can buy a gun online - I just did that 2 days ago. BUT the seller must have his FFL holder ship the gun to a FFL holder near me. Both dealers do paperwork and both charge money for the service.
I strongly feel this system is restrictive and must end.

Info on GCA68:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968

This was promoted by LBJ after the Kennedy asassination.
But like so many politically motivated "feel good" laws, it did nothing in reality except add to the bureaocracy. This would be a great thing to cut from the budget to save money and simplify commerce.

mark

[AtheistCrusader]

1. I disagree.

Out of state FFL's cannot always properly check your background, because the links between State Patrol/Sherriff systems and the FBI/NICS system aren't instantaneous. Local FFL's can check with local law enforcement and NICS together.

Just like our Concealed Carry permit gets prints run/name run against both the FBI database, and state patrol.

I'm ok with the 68 GCA. It is an annoyance, and a small fee. But it seems workable to me.

[sharesunited]

2. More not less regulation of gun commerce. Shut it down.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

11. More anti union and anti rights nonsense from you?

WHy do you hate working people and their civil rights so much?

[rl6214]

19. And gun controllers say they don't want to ban guns

"gun commerce. Shut it down."

[MyrnaLoy]

3. Yeah!!

cuz we all know that kids would NEVER try to buy a gun online with a fake ID.

[Glassunion]

12. You are correct to a point.

The online portion of the purchase can be done by anyone with a credit card.

However, the firearms can only be shipped to a licensed dealer. When you go to pick it up from an FFL dealer, is when a background check is run and form 4473 is filled out. This is difficult(not impossible) to do with a fake ID.

But you cannot simply order a firearm online and have it shipped to your house with a fake ID.

[AtheistCrusader]

16. Poster's point was, without the 68 GCA, that scenario could happen.

[Kennah]

20. Having actually bought a gun over the Internet, and on eBay, circa 1998 ...

... it's about the most time consuming drawn out pain in the ass imaginable. I think it was about 5 weeks in all for the seller to transfer to their FFL, get it shipped to my FFL, and then transferred to me. I could have walked into any gun store, paid, filled out the forms, and walked out with a gun.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

4. gotta tell ya that after moving from California to Arizona

i'm liking Arizona gun laws more and more everyday.what I do with inanamate objects is none of the government's business.

[mvccd1000]

6. Congrats on the move.

Now if we could just get the gov't to stay out of the (marriage/abortion/sexual preference) areas the way they stay out of 2nd Amendment areas, we'd have a great place to live. :)

[-..__...]

13. FTR...

CA voters don't think very highly of marriage/sexual preferences areas themselves.

[AtheistCrusader]

17. I'm still in shock from that election.

California.

Of all places California
What the hell

[old mark]

7. True. I know we would get a better response here if we were advocating for

freedom under another amendment...but the Second seems to be a though one for some people to grasp...They are all important, you know?

I was glad to escape from California muyself, although back in the old days (70's) I did have guns there...they did not have such idiotic laws then. I found several great gun shops in Berkeley in '75...


mark

[TheWraith]

5. We should establish a modern version of Curios and Relics licenses.

Something that allows you to get modern weapons shipped directly to you.

[old mark]

8. Sure- why do a background check every time? PA does not license guns-The counties do a thourogh

background check on every applicant for a carry license, and the Sheriff shall issue a license to anyone who qualifies. The license has nothing to do with what guns you can puirchase, only gives you the right to carry concealed. No license necessary to carry openly, nor to buy guns.
This current federal system is way too oppressive and unnecessary.

mark

[TheWraith]

18. It would be a great money-saving measure for collectors.

Instead of paying $25-$100 depending on your FFL on top of the cost of each gun, you get a one time fee of maybe $50, good for unlimited non-business transfers over 3 years like the C&R.

[chibajoe]

9. The seller doesn't HAVE to ship the gun out through a FFL

They can legally send the gun directly to an FFL in your state. If your FFL is refusing to accept a firearm from a private individual, that is a store policy, not something required by law. If they are telling you otherwise, perhaps you should find yourself a more honest FFL. There are plenty of reasons to repeal the GCA, but the one you listed is invalid.

[one-eyed fat man]

10. That depends on the shipper's state.

My FFL will accept shipments from individuals from states where he is certain the state law there allows individuals to ship firearms. The reason some FFL's will only accept from other FFL's is to reduce the hassles. It's just like FFL's who refuse to ship to California or Massachusetts because of the hassles of the laws in those states.

[X_Digger]

14. Well, I think the 'sporting purpose' clause needs to go

There's nothing in the second amendment about 'sporting purpose'.

[Euromutt]

15. All the more so since it only applies to imports

The upshot being that you can't buy, say, a Benelli shotgun with an extended magazine tube, and you can't buy a factory extended mag tube (there are fortunately some decent domestic manufacturers of such after-market parts), but for a Remington or a Mossberg, it's no problem.

[Hoopla Phil]

21. I'd be happy if we could get rid of the "sporting purpose" BS. With the Heller

and McDonald decision I really don't see why it is being enforced at all at this point.

[derby378]

22. I agree

There is no "hunting and sporting" clause in the Second Amendment.