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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 08:46 AM
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Legislators seek wider protection for self-defense (North Carolina - Castle Doctrine)
RALEIGH — Ben Miles Jr. credits a bit of dumb luck for keeping him out of trouble three decades ago, and for making him a gun-rights advocate.

Miles and a friend had been target shooting early in the day before he drove to Greensboro’s Central Library to do research for a term paper. Four young men followed Miles as he walked out of the library, giving the then-student a strong sense they were up to no good.

Miles reached his car, and the .22 -caliber pistol on his passenger seat.

“The group by which I was being accosted saw the firearm and to use a quote ... peace broke out all over the place,” Miles recalled last week as he lobbied at the General Assembly for what is loosely known as the castle doctrine bill.

http://www.news-record.com/content/2011/02/26/article/legislators_seek_wider_protection_for_self_defense
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 08:50 AM
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1. "strong sense they were up to no good." = right to brandish and fire at will - more GOP gun insanity
Edited on Thu Mar-03-11 09:13 AM by jpak
what horseshit

yup
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:53 AM
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6. A gun on the passanger seat is "brandishing"?
Your command of American English is... sad.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 08:52 AM
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2. NC Democrats have more sense
"Sen. Floyd McKissick , a Durham Democrat, said that he feared drivers who found themselves in unfamiliar neighborhoods might be too quick to pull the trigger."

yup
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 09:19 AM
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3. Most NC Dems do. That guy is the exception.
This bill will be passed in large part due to our pro-gun Dems here.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 09:49 AM
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4. Merely a fig leaf for proliferation of guns and ammo. Highly antisocial.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:24 AM
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5. To the contrary, it is the socially and morally correct thing to do
It allows the weak to protect themselves from anti social predators. Not to support it is to support the predators and their action, which is the real impact of your position
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:32 PM
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7. You need to broaden your definition of weak to include anyone who is not impervious to bullets.
It's only fair to include the innocent dead from wrongful gunfire, don't you think?
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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:24 AM
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9. or rape victims, any form of murder other than firearm..
lets make them a social cause too? no, that may actually accomplish something. this path is pretty much done.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:45 AM
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10. Don't give up yet. I want to focus on a weapon with which you propose to arm the public.
And by the way.

I don't think it is right to state that the public owns guns to defend gun ownership.
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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:09 AM
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11. Give up. The pubic can make its own choices.
or choose to not own a gun. Hence freedom to choose. The SCOTUS just twice squished people who are working the reverse of that. Trying to restrict the public's rights.

Again with the think word. The law is moving in its own direction towards relaxed gun control.

A smart platform would adopt this rather than ignore it and then try to catch up later.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:33 AM
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12. First of all, squished is not a legal term for what was held as public policy.
Second, I am in favor of slowing the flow of guns into anyone's hands as an absolute good!
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 08:56 AM
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13. Wow,that's the same way Fred Phelps feels - what a coincidence
He thinks that what he's doing is for the "absolute good" of society based on his beliefs too. What a coincidence!
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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:32 AM
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14. I am in favor of the Argentinian Dress Code coming to where I teach (for staff)
for the public good. However I dont think it is going to happen soon. It appears we share a penchant for lost causes.

To be clear I teach at a private university (dont want to come off as a wierdo)
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:15 AM
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8. The criminals and antisocials need someone to fight for their safety and that's what
SU, Jpax, Hoyt, kansasvoter etc are here for.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 10:02 AM
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15. When you can ensure that your bullets harm only the wicked, then get back to me.
Otherwise, I am in favor of general pacification.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 10:41 AM
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16. Which means surrender to the wicked and the predators
No thanks...
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