Make no mistake about it - republicans sponsored Maine's proposed no-permit carry law Dems oppose

[jpak]

http://www.timesrecord.com/articles/2011/02/23/news/doc4d65406949ea5636854288.txt

<snip>

Among the handful of bills expected to set off the biggest firestorm is legislation sponsored by Rep. Dale Crafts, R-moran-Lisbon, that would — among other changes — repeal the requirement for a permit to carry a concealed weapon in Maine.

<snip>

LD 658, “An Act To Modify the Requirement of a Permit To Carry a Concealed Weapon,” is sponsored by Rep. Dale Crafts, R-moran-Lisbon. Co-sponsors are Sen. Garrett Paul Mason, Rmoran--Lisbon; Rep. Bernard Ayotte, R-moran-Caswell; Rep. Russell Black, R-moran Wilton; Rep. Richard Cebra, R-moran-Naples; Rep. Tyler Clark, R-moran-Easton; Rep. Paul Davis, R-moran-Sangerville; Rep. Kenneth Fredette, R-moran-Newport; Rep. Ralph Sarty Jr., R-moran-Denmark; and Rep. Jeffrey Timberlake, R-moran-Turner.

<snip>


But Sen. Margaret Craven, D-sanity-Lewiston, on Tuesday described Crafts’ bill as “outrageous.” She, too, pointed to the Giffords shooting in Arizona, but used the incident to argue against the legislation.

“I don’t even have enough words to tell you how upset this makes me,” Craven said Tuesday of LD 658. “I think the purpose of carrying a weapon is to intimidate others and (the bill would) make (guns) very, very available to young people — to children — who are just playing with them, who don’t even know the danger of them. In the wake of all that has happened in this country in the last four or five years, and indeed in the last few weeks in Arizona,I don’t know what the big push is to make sure people have weapons, and access to weapons.”

<more>

I know why - the fucking Teabaggers and GOP and NRA want to flood America's streets with GOP/Teabagger concealed gun carriers

yup

[shadowrider]

1. Excellent. Yet another state attempting to go "green" n/t

[jpak]

2. Republicans suck

yup

[Upton]

So do authoritarians

who oppose constitutionally guaranteed civil liberties.

Btw...the NRA does support Democrats too...

[jpak]

4. Maine Dems oppose this bill - are they authoritarian too?

huh?

The authoritarian NRA/GOP wants to turn the US into the Wild West with guns everywhere and stupid Castle Doctrines to legalize murder.

they suck

yup

[Name removed]

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[Upton]

7. They want to "legalize murder"?

More hyperbole..emotional BS..

When and if you ever come up with a cogent argument as to why we should ignore the Bill of Rights..let me know..

Until then, you remain just one more authoritarian nanny stater..

[jpak]

8. Castle Doctrine = shoot first ask questions later

Legalized murder

yup

[Upton]

9. It's called SELF DEFENSE..

you ought to look up the definition sometime..

[jpak]

12. You have a right to self defense now without this stupid GOP/NRA Castle Doctrine bullshit

yup

[spin]

64. Sure and you can also get sued ...

Castle doctrine in Florida stops that.

The Castle Doctrine - What Does It Mean?
Blogs » Florida Law

* By J. Patrick Buckley
* Posted January 14, 2011 10:45 AM

To summarize, the Castle Doctrine affects you in three dramatic ways,

1) It creates a legal presumption if someone forcibly enters your home or occupied vehicle, that person is there to hurt or kill you or one of your guests, and you may use defensive force, including deadly force, against this person.

2) You have no duty to retreat. You don't have to turn your back on your attacker, or otherwise appear vulnerable. You are allowed to stand your ground and fight back if you reasonably believe you are in imminent fear of serious bodily injury or death.

3) If you legally defend yourself, you cannot be sued in civil court or prosecuted in criminal court.
http://blogs.naplesnews.com/florida-law/2011/01/the-castle-doctrine---what-does-it-mean.html

Sounds fair to me.

Yup!

[jpak]

84. Floriduh Castle Law = legalized murder and mayhem - yup

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics/2008-09/msg04641.html

West Palm Beach attorney Marc Shiner plans to use a similar defense in
the upcoming trial of William Wilkerson, Jr. , charged with shooting
and killing Jason Payne in November outside a party. Payne had
followed Wilkerson after he got into his car and hit his driver's side
window twice, shattering it.

The case was scheduled to go to trial Monday but was postponed, Shiner
said.

He says he hopes Williamson's case ends like Bissoon's, with the
charges dropped altogether. But he said prosecutors have argued that
Wilkerson had threatened to kill Payne earlier in the party;
therefore, the case did not meet the requirements for self-defense.
Shiner, a former prosecutor, disagrees.

"At that point, he thought his life was in danger," he said "He was
acting within his rights under the law."

[TheWraith]

109. Floriduh? This after you said that Arizonans hate America?

You really love to bash other places and the people who live there, don't you? I wonder what you'll have to say when Maine exercises that Brady F rating they've got and passes unlicensed carry.

[jpak]

111. Floriduh is as Floriduh does, the GOP is driving that state into the dirt

yup

[rl6214]

166. Floriduh?

Boy you sure are quik to throw out the insults to ANYONE that has an opposing view to your own.

Grow up.

YUP

YUP

YUP

[spin]

131. If a person abuses the law, he can be charged and prosecuted ..

Of course, some people do not believe that self defense is ever justified.

[PavePusher]

17. You still have to have a reasonable justification.

But we know you like to lie by omission.

[jpak]

20. Who decides that? It is judged after the fact - dead is dead and the HOLY 2A cannot raise them

up again

nope

[GreenStormCloud]

39. You are more likely to be struck by lightning than illegally killed by...

...a CCW carrier.

[jpak]

41. Lightning kills Americans every year, and Maine's current CCW law is different than this GOP/NRA/BS

What is the acceptable death toll for the GOP/NRA's insanity?

[GreenStormCloud]

36. Don't break into my house if you don't want to get shot.

If someone illegally breaks into my home I am allowed to presume that they mean me deadly harm. I will make that presumption and open fire with no warning.

[Name removed]

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[aikoaiko]

154. Oh for fuck's sake -- have you no shame?

:shrug:

[PavePusher]

164. McCarthyism... alive and well in the Democratic Party.

Shame, indeed.

[rl6214]

167. Seriously?

NO.

[Arctic Dave]

29. "emotional BS"? Isn't that the whole reason people carry guns?

What is more emotional then irrational fear to the point that you feel the need to be armed at all times?

LOL.

[jpak]

31. good one!

:toast:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

10. The bill has bipartisan support

yup
yup
yup

[jpak]

13. No it doesn't - it was sponsored and cosponsored entirely by the asshole GOP

read the OP

yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

25. So you are saying no Democrat is going to vote for it?

You might check broader sources

[jpak]

27. link! link! Show us the Dems that support this fucking GOP/NRA horseshit

bring it

[ProgressiveProfessor]

45. Actually family members there have told me their Democratic rep is going to vote for it

and said that it would not be the only Democratic vote for it.

[jpak]

47. Does this Dem have a name? Or is this a GOP/NRA secret vote?

:shrug:

[rl6214]

168. More name calling and no rational discussion

hasn't grown up yet.

NOPE
NOPE
NOPE

[PavePusher]

16. When someone opposes a Civil Right, they are an authoritarian.

Doesn't matter two cat shits what fucking political party they affiliate with.

[jpak]

18. CCW is not a civil right - it is a privilege - and it is the GOP that is authoritarian here

Dems rightly oppose this bill

[PavePusher]

21. "...keep and bear arms..."

Your intentional obtuseness not withstanding...

[jpak]

24. Your first and second amendment rights are not absolute - sorry to burst yer bubble

not

[X_Digger]

136. Do you agree that 'bear' is part of 'keep and bear'? Simple question.

No red herrings about limits, let's just start with that simple premise.

[jpak]

138. There are limits to the Holy 2A and that is not a red herring - ex. a ban 30 round magazines

does not infringe on your right to "bear".

Banning guns from Congressional chambers, the Supreme Court & airline cabins does not infringe on "Teh Ba'r" either

Nor does banning teenagers from CCW permits does not infringe Teh Ba'r

yup

[X_Digger]

140. Answer the question, please.

Is 'bear' part of 'keep and bear'?

Let's work our way out from that simple question.

[jpak]

146. I did answer it - states with CCW permits regulate the right to bear

States also regulate the how you carry guns in your car

The federal government also regulates what you can "bear" in government buildings and airline cabins

It is not simple question

no matter how hard you want to make it

yup

[X_Digger]

148. So you agree that 'bear' is part of 'keep and bear'. Bearing is part of the right protected.

Now, since we agree that 'bear' is part of the right, we can talk about what limits are appropriate, and in what fashion.

There are two ways generally to 'bear'- open or concealed.

A locality cannot deny both to an otherwise law-abiding citizen- that would be a denial of their ability to 'bear'.

Agreed? (Let's work our way out one step farther.)

[jpak]

151. Until the latest GOP/NRA push for guns everywhere, concealed carry was highly regulated

and no one made much of a fuss over it.

Now that the Teabaggers have taken over - they want guns everywhere - for political intimidation.

and it sucks

yup

[X_Digger]

152. That's not an answer to my question.. try again. n/t

[X_Digger]

174. See post 152. Still waiting. n/t

[PavePusher]

163. Dodge. n/t

[rl6214]

169. Teh Ba'r

Still haven't grown up yet.

NOPE

NOPE

NOPE

[PavePusher]

23. "legalize murder"?

You are lying. Why are you lying?

[rl6214]

170. Seriously?

You need to ask that question?

[PavePusher]

175. Just curious how far the hyperbole goes....

The hysterical doppler effect makes pretty rainbows.

[Atypical Liberal]

38. Why do you keep saying "NRA/GOP"?

As I have told you before, in the last election, all of my Democratic candidates except one received high marks from the NRA. Three of them were the NRA-endorsed candidate.

The NRA supports any politician who supports the second amendment.

Yes, it is true, unfortunately, that Republicans generally seem to have a higher respect for the second amendment than Democrats do. But there most certainly are pro-second amendment Democrats. I am one, and I vote for them.

You can see my ballot in my sig.

[jpak]

40. Is the NRA supporting or opposing this fucked up GOP bill?

supporting

GOP/NRA

NRA/GOP

yup

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. What does go green mean?

Seriously, I've heard of it re: the environment, but what does it mean here?

[RSillsbee]

5. Going green

One of the pro rights guys posts a graphic of a map showing which tates are no issue (RED) which are may issue (YELLOW) which are shall issue(BLUE) and which are no permit required (GREEN)

Currently Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming and Vermont are Green and it appears that Colorado and Maine are about to join them

[PavePusher]

19. One of several maps here:

http://www.opencarry.org/constcarry.html

[RSillsbee]

11. Even the pugs get it right once in a while NT

[jpak]

14. They have it all fucking wrong and they suck

yup

[RSillsbee]

15. Maine is going permitless

Yup

[jpak]

22. Nope - we are sane gun owners up here

This ain't Texas of Montana or AZ

yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

26. There is bipartisan support for this...Maine will be going green

[jpak]

28. proof - give us the names of the Dems that support this GOP bullshit

bring it

[ProgressiveProfessor]

44. Other articles indicate that it will not be a party line vote

I am willing to wait and see. All it takes is one vote to show your absolute position is BS. Note that I have family in state who are providing me gouge on this.

[jpak]

48. Sorry, the VAST majority of Dems will oppose this - & I don't buy this 1-vote=bipartisan-BS either

nope

"gouge"?

rofl:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

57. Already backing off your absolutist position I see

:rofl:

[jpak]

75. No - that was your stupid straw man

yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

79. Way to keep back pedalling...yup

yup

[PavePusher]

33. And thus you prove your ignorance.

Keep up the good work.

P.S. May I see your First, Fourth and Thirteenth Amendment permits, please? Just for the sake of Sanity, of course...

[jpak]

35. I am a sane gun owner - and so are all my neighbors and everyone else I know

and only extremist dumbass republicans want this bill to pass

yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

46. Not what I am hearing from in state residents

[jpak]

49. I live here and all that I have read clearly indicates that Dems oppose this GOP/NRA BS

yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

51. Every last one? Not what I am hearing from other residents

[jpak]

53. Somehow I don't believe you

:rofl:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

55. Let us see how the vote goes...though it seems clear it will pass

Most of us find you comical as well

[jpak]

68. It will pass with a republcan majority and signed by LePage

yup

[Ken_Fish]

77. See ya at Deweys. They make some awesome chili..

I will be the guy with a concealed glock 19. Shit I may even add a +2 base plate. 19+1, imagine how bad that would be...

Hopefully it passes before this summer.

[jpak]

86. The Old Port will be a fun place if this passes - one shooting and the cruise ships will go elsewher...

yup

[Ken_Fish]

123. Oh I am sure Maine will be awash with Blood.. and lobsters

think of the lobsters. They will be traumatized.

[jpak]

127. Wait and see - drunks will be carrying in the Old Port and Saturday Nights will be "Special"

yup

[Ken_Fish]

129. I believe it would still be illegal to drink and carry

as it should be.

[jpak]

132. Where does it say that?

:shrug:

[Ken_Fish]

134. Is it illegal now?(nt)

[jpak]

142. If they pass this POS/GOP/NRA law, the uninformed will *think* it is OK to bring guns into bars

Not every 21 YO is going to read up on this - they will only hear about it from their "friends".

It's OK to conceal carry now - you don't need a permit

the cops can't stop you

you can carry anywhere

It will not end well

nope

[Name removed]

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[ProgressiveProfessor]

78. And how many Democrats will have voted for it?

Backing off the that party line crap real fast aren't you :rofl:

yup yup

[jpak]

87. No Maine Democrats have publicly supported this bill - it is 100% *moran* GOP

yup!

:rofl:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

96. Lets see what the tally is when it passes

[jpak]

101. Moran is as moran does, I say - and anyone that votes for this POS NRA/GOP bill is an idiot

yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

103. So you will hang that label on the Democrats who support it?

Nice of you :rofl:

[jpak]

110. No, we will hang a primary on them

yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

113. More dancing from you, how not surprising

you need to work on your footwork :rofl:

yup yup

[Common Sense Party]

52. Why do you own guns? n/t

[jpak]

54. Hunting - like a sane gun owner should

yup

[Common Sense Party]

59. Is that the ONLY reason to own a gun?

Anyone owning a gun that does not hunt is insane?

[jpak]

70. The only legitimate reason - yes

:D

[Common Sense Party]

72. Well, that's ridiculous. So you're saying I'm insane?

Are you sure you want to go down that road?

[jpak]

76. Down what road?

:shrug:

[Common Sense Party]

80. Down the ridiculous road of insulting every member of this forum who

has guns for other purposes than hunting.

You just called us all insane.

I'm pretty sure that's a no-no when it comes to forum rules.


On Edit, yes it is:

"Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other individual members of this discussion board. Even very mild personal attacks are forbidden."

[jpak]

88. What a stupid post

:rofl:

[NHRAhotrodder]

99. Is that the best you got?

In that case, I have no worries about the future of 2A rights

[jpak]

102. It was to the point - and accurate

yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

105. No, it was a gratuitous slam against fellow DU members

Hopefully it does not get deleted...it show your true colors


yup yup

[jpak]

107. Hopefully!

yup

[Common Sense Party]

114. I agree, yours was a stupid post.

To call all of us who are gun owners "insane" was a very stupid thing to do.

[Name removed]

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[Common Sense Party]

69. Hello. Hello? Anybody there?

Anyone who owns a gun OTHER than for hunting is insane? Do you honestly believe that?

[NHRAhotrodder]

83. From what I've read,

yes he/she really does belive we are insane to own guns for purposes other than hunting although, no where in the 2A is hunting mentioned.

[Common Sense Party]

85. Maybe he/she has a different printing of the Constitution than we have.

[NHRAhotrodder]

89. I'm truly beginning

to believe that he/she did write their own constitution and thinks it't the real McCoy.

[PavePusher]

160. The available evidence seems to indicate that the individual in question...

has their own version of the Constitution, a direct seance line to the authors and signers of it, and a special dictionary that has the REAL meanings of words.

Or something.

[Ken_Fish]

71. Your 30-30 is an assault rifle, it can defeat a BPV

your bolt action is snipers rifle, your benelli bird gun is an assault shotgun. I mean looks like that scary thing they use to blow doors of hinges in CQB.

You using a single shot rifle with open sights, else its should be illegal..

This is where the anits path would end given the capability. Thankfully this will not happen. EVER

[jpak]

90. What are you talking about?

:rofl:

[NHRAhotrodder]

91. In Vietnam

the common deer rifle was used as a sniper rifle. I know for a fact that is true. Almost any rifle bullet will defeat a BPV, so, in effect, your hunting rifles are considered, by your standards, assault weapons and should be outlawed, so go turn them in.

[jpak]

100. Snipers shoot in combat assault? No, snipers stay put and shoot from concealment

The Model 700 doesn't use a 30 round magazine either

fail

try again

:rofl:

[NHRAhotrodder]

112. What did I say that wasn't true?

Show me where I said that snipers shoot in combat assault.
And BTW, what do you know about combat? Snipers did quite frequently participate in combat, shooting, not from concealment, but at the enemy during an attack. I know, I have personally witnessed this.

[jpak]

117. Stupid childlike logic

" in effect, your hunting rifles are considered, by your standards*, assault weapons and should be outlawed*, so go turn them in*."

* dumb

yup

[Common Sense Party]

120. Your favorite kind

The only kind you engage in

yup

[Ken_Fish]

121. "It" killed a president. Dont you think that justifies outlawing

long rifles?

[jpak]

124. Buying one by mail order was outlawed becasue of that and the GOP wants to overturn that too

yup

[Ken_Fish]

126. Yeah so many bad guys would order rifles online..

it would be a massacre.

[jpak]

128. That should be outlawed too

yup

[Ken_Fish]

130. It is outlawed. Are you saying having firearms shipped by FFL's should be illegal?(nt)

[jpak]

133. Nope!

nice try though

:D

[rl6214]

172. I have ordered dozens of rifles by mail

delivered to my house.

Wanna try again.

[PavePusher]

161. Another dodge when called out on ignorance. Typical of you. n/t

[Ken_Fish]

119. Neither does a 6.5x52mm Mannlicher-Carcano

but it did not really need one to change world history did it?

So you have a problem with a semi auto rifle but dont mind a rifle in 338Lap that can reach out beyond a mile and will defeat body armor. A rifle that group 5 shots at 1.5 inches at the 1000 yard line.

At 1000 yards it has more kinetic energy than a 357mag round at the muzzle.

[jpak]

122. I have a problem with semi-auto rifles with 30 round magazines

they have no use in a civil society

Hunting rifles with a maximum capacity of 5 rounds are OK

yup

[Ken_Fish]

125. Even this one?

Purpose built weapon system?

http://pics.livejournal.com/nebris/pic/0048ctw5

[jpak]

135. 30 round mags should be outlawed

yup

[Ken_Fish]

137. k so a 29 round mag is all good?

will trade you for 50 state ccw. Repeal of the hughes amendment, relaxation of some NFA regs, national standards on ownership laws.

Oh wait, nothing needs to be traded, these things will be enacted anyway.

[jpak]

139. 6 rounds max - to include revolvers

yup

[Name removed]

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[DissedByBush]

156. Six rounds are far too much

You need one round for hunting.

Nothing more than this should be allowed:



If you are going to pull absurd and arbitrary limits out of your ass, so can I.

[RSillsbee]

149. So is my Mini 14 w/ a 25 round magazine OK? NT

[jpak]

159. Nope - 6 rounds max

yup

[friendly_iconoclast]

150. So the gun owners of Vermont are not sane, in your estimation?

[rl6214]

171. "ain't Texas of Montana"

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Tuesday Afternoon]

30. I don't know why you insist on adding your commentary. Yup.

[jpak]

32. To prove a point - republican = moran - don't you agree?

:D

[PavePusher]

34. Mirror, mirror, on the wall.... n/t

[jpak]

37. who's the dumbest of them all

the GOP and NRA

yup

[Tuesday Afternoon]

58. way to win friends and influence people...

:eyes:

[jpak]

73. You don't think the GOP is the dumbest of them all?

:shrug:

[Tuesday Afternoon]

43. nope.

and with that attitude we will lose 2012. Keep it up.

[jpak]

50. The GOP has over-reached. Here in Maine, LePage et al. have kicked the Democratic hornet's nest

They are headed for a BIG fall in 2012

yup

[Tuesday Afternoon]

56. interesting...as that is not a historically accurate analysis of the way

Maine has gone in the past. We shall see...

State and local politicsSee also: Maine gubernatorial election, 2006; Maine gubernatorial election, 2010; Maine Democratic Party; Maine Green Independent Party; Libertarian Party of Maine; Maine Republican Party; Electoral reform in Maine; Same-sex marriage in Maine
In state general elections, Maine voters tend to accept independent and third-party candidates more frequently than most states. Maine has had two independent governors recently (James B. Longley, 1975–1979 and Angus King, 1995–2003). The Green Party candidate won nine percent of the vote in the 2002 gubernatorial election, more than in any election for a statewide office for that party until the 2006 Illinois gubernatorial election. The locally organized Maine Green Independent Party also elected John Eder to the office of State Representative in the Maine House of Representatives, the highest elected Green official nationwide. Pat LaMarche, 2004 Green Party vice-presidential candidate, resides in the southern coastal town of Yarmouth. Maine state politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, are noted for having more moderate views than many in the national wings of their respective parties.

Maine is an alcoholic beverage control state.

more at link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine

[NHRAhotrodder]

60. I wonder what will happen to certain posters here

when national reciprocity is enacted into law? It'll be quite entertaining to read all the comments,

[jpak]

63. Maine won't be part of that - we don't want flatlanders with concealed guns running around here

yup

[Tuesday Afternoon]

65. that comment makes no sense whatsoever.

does your Mommy know that you are on the computer?

[jpak]

93. It does if you understand Maine politics - flatlanders cause lots of trouble up here

we don't want them carrying concealed weapons in our state

nope

[Tuesday Afternoon]

98. uh...hello...? it is THIER state, too. this us and them attitude has got to go

Legal gun owners are not the problem.

[jpak]

104. They can move here and get a permit - otherwise they have to abide by OUR laws

yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

108. Maine is moving forward progessively in this area. You are being a reactionary on this

I still doubt you are from there...your family maybe, but you still sound like an urbanite pretending to be otherwise

Yup

[jpak]

115. RW GOP guns bills are not "progressive" and Maine progressives will not support this POS GOP/NRA BS

yup

and I live in Maine and would be skiing today if weren't for the fucking rain.

yup yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

141. Your reactionary position is failing fast. The progressives will leave you in the dust

deal with it, out of state flatlander

[jpak]

You don't know too many Maine Progressives - do you? They don't support this GOP/LePage/NRA BS

I live in Maine - where do you live?

:D

[ProgressiveProfessor]

147. Have several family members in Maine. All hard core democrats

None are worked up about it and all that I have spoken to think it is OK.

My location and other details is in my profile...something you do not have. :rofl:

yup yup

[jpak]

153. I don't have details in my profile because of death threats posted against me on another DU forum

the stuff here ain't nothin'

yup

[ProgressiveProfessor]

155. Nobody here is threatening you...unless you consider laughters and mocking threats

[Name removed]

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[ProgressiveProfessor]

145. As a urban flatlander, you would know

yup

[NHRAhotrodder]

66. If Maine issues CHL's

they won't have a choice in it I believe, I could be wrong, anyone here have any info on that?

[jpak]

95. The Maine legislature is the only body that can allow permit reciprocation

The NRA cannot dictate that

nope

[NHRAhotrodder]

116. The NRA is not dictating it

It is the Congress of the United States of America, which will make it a Federal Law.

[jpak]

118. Who is sponsoring that the fucked up GOP/NRA legislation? The GOP/NRA? - do tell

:D

[ProgressiveProfessor]

81. Yet you sound just like some urban out of state flat lander

[jpak]

92. I sound like someone who lives on a dirt road in way rural Maine

try again!

:rofl:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

94. Far from it...urban flat lander. loud and clear...yup yup

:rofl:

[jpak]

106. Dream on yup yup

:rofl:

[PavePusher]

162. And now you are reduced to bigotry. Stay classy.... n/t

[jpak]

61. I went smelt fishing last week

Smelt are small sea-run fish traditionally fished through the ice at night in smelt camps - small rented wood-stove heated huts.

These smelt camps about as redneck as you can get in Maine.

You can hear just about every conversion in the place.

LePage was the butt of every joke.

He has pissed off everyone in the state - even his own supporters won't speak up for him anymore.

He won with only 38% of the vote.

The Maine GOP has over-reached and will be shellacked in 2012.

Sorry - no GOP future for you

yup

[NHRAhotrodder]

62. I'll just bet that you also predicted

that the Dems were going to hang on to the House of Reps. last Nov..
From what I have read of your posts, 99% have been incorrect so far.
Not an attack on you, just fact.

[jpak]

67. 2012 will be the year of GOP humiliation in Maine - we will have a Dem District 1 Senator too

yup

[NHRAhotrodder]

74. Didn't answer my question I see.

Well, never mind, I think I know the answer.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

97. Indeed yup yup

[ileus]

157. Just proves on some issues even Republicans are right.

[jpak]

158. Nope - just proves republicans are assholes who waste time on this shit and ignore *jobs*

yup

[rl6214]

165. You need to get over yourself with your moran shtick

it really makes YOU look like the moron.

YUP

YUP

YUP

[Common Sense Party]

176. The schtick stinks, it's getting so old.

[DissedByBush]

177. I'm wondering what this has to do with the Happy Days actress

Leave Joanie out of this.