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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 10:46 PM
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Smiling and sideburned, Arizona gun massacre suspect 'sings' plea of 'not guilty' as victims' famili
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1364751/Jared-Loughner-pleads-guilty-Arizona-shootings-case.html

His now trademark shaved head covered by short, dark hair and sideburns, shackled Arizona massacre suspect Jared Loughner was in court Wednesday to plead not guilty to dozens of charges.

Wearing khaki prison clothes and smiling as he shuffled into the room, the college dropout entered the plea to charges that included trying to assassinate U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, attempting to kill two of her aides and murdering federal judge John Roll and Mrs Giffords's staffer Gabe Zimmerman.

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Mrs Giffords, a Democrat, was shot through the head at close range and remains in hospital at a rehabilitation centre in Houston.

When asked in court if his name was Jared Loughner, he replied in a sing-song style: 'Yes it is.'

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:33 AM
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5. Ban 30 round mags and I will go away
yup
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:23 PM
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7. What about 19-round mags?
What about 7-round mags?
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:45 PM
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10. 6 rounds max - to include revolvers
yup
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:28 PM
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16. So, in other words, you lied. You WON'T go away if we ban 30-round mags.
Gotcha.

Stick to the schtick, jpak.

yeppers
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:35 AM
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23. 10 bullets for rifle, 6 bullets for a handgun. Deal? nt
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:56 AM
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24. Just curious as to why you'd allow more for a rifle.
And no, no deal.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:05 AM
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26. NO. N/T
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:23 AM
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32. Absolutely no chance of a deal.
It's foolish on its face.
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:32 AM
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22. 6 rounds per pistol. I agree !! nt
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 04:36 AM by right2bfree
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:28 PM
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36. So under your plan honest people would have 6 rounds and criminals would have 30 ...
I've always noticed that the people who favor draconian gun laws seem to want to give criminals a big advantage.

If I were a violent criminal, I definitely would be for gun control. In fact I would be for gun confiscation! Of course I would ignore any laws that passed, because as a criminal I break laws not obey them.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:31 PM
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40. I have a 9-shot revolver. I've seen a 22-shot revolver.
Now what?
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:32 AM
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21. Banned. nt
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:21 AM
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30.  If they are banned, how are you going to pay for them? n/t
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:32 AM
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44. "Banned."
So sayeth a person who chose the username "right2bfree..."

You. Just Made My Fuckin'. Day. That is the funniest thing I heard all year. I'm going to save a screen shot of this, and try to figure out how to turn it into one of those "motivational posters" style things.


.......this is gonna be AWESOME. Maybe.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:28 PM
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8. Just go away
I think that would be the concensus here.

YUP

YUP

YUP
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:45 PM
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11. Nope!
my new home

yup
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:31 PM
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37. Please stay. Your posts are helping dispel the propaganda from those who oppose gun ownership ...
by highlighting just how foolish their arguments are.
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:30 AM
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20. Six bullets is all the need if that many. nt
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:07 AM
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27. The U.S. does not have a Dept. of Needs, and you are not the Needs Czar. N/T
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:32 AM
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28. What if you are wrong?
Are you volunteering to be liable for any problems people have if that's not enough?

I'm betting... not.
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:49 PM
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41. Who said YOU need a gun in the first place? nt
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 03:42 AM
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43. Who said anyone else gets to decide for me? n/t
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:28 PM
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46. Who gets to decide when a gun is pulled out and someone dies?
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:35 PM
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47. A judge and jury. nt
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:24 AM
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33. Who are you to say? What if I have seven targets?
What if I'm a lousy shot? What if it takes several rounds to stop an attacker?

Your arbitrary choice of "six" is plain stupid.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:21 PM
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35. Answers...
Who are you to say? The Czar of Need...
What if I have seven targets? Will never happen, stop making things up...
What if I'm a lousy shot? You should take lessons. Really, you should...
What if it takes several rounds to stop an attacker? Bullets are magical. It only takes one headshot. Stop it with this center of mass bullshit.

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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:58 PM
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39. Thanks for the answers, they never seem to be forthcoming from the
disarmers.

I'm still waiting for a certain poster to tell me what's going to happen to my 19-bullet magazines for my XDm if his 6-bullet-"clip" law goes into effect.

Is someone going to come to my home and take them away from me?
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:46 AM
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29. Hunger Strikes works... why don't try that until 30 round mags are banned to persuade people?
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 08:01 AM by OneTenthofOnePercent
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:22 AM
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31. K... I'll just run out and replace all my 30's with 29's.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:26 AM
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34. It won't matter. He'll keep pushing until all we're allowed are one-shot Derringers.
And after that, blow guns.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:44 PM
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9. The GOP/NRA wants us to forget it
I won't

yup
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:49 AM
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4. He has sideburns, he was smiling, he pled in a singsong voice... Relevance?
This is a courtroom update. Why is this in the Guns forum? I see nothing about public policy re firearms.

What's next? A discussion of the brand of trenchcoats the Columbine shooters wore?
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:48 PM
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12. Gun crime - a political assassination attempt with 30 round magazines
Palin's cross-hairs maps

things the GOP/NRA wants us to forget

yup
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:22 PM
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:37 AM
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45. Thanks for this.
I am so sick of hearing about that stupid Palin map, and how it is teh EEEEEEVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIILLQ!!!!!!Q!!Q
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:50 PM
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14. Actually it was a political assassination attempt with a Glock
And it's already been shown that Palin's cross-hairs maps nor the GOP/NRA had nothing to do with it.

NOPE

NOPE

NOPE
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:55 PM
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15. then ban Glock 30 round magazines
yup
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:30 PM
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17. What will that do? You won't rest until we all have six-shooters.
You won't rest then, either, I'm sure.

Siga con el schticko.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:48 PM
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38. I suppose we should ban these too:
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 12:49 PM by PavePusher
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:18 AM
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18. I see no reference to 30-round magazines, Sarah Palin, or crosshairs.
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 01:19 AM by Straw Man
You might just as well have posted "Loughner Loughner Booga Booga!"
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:58 AM
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6. Ban sideburns!
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:30 AM
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19. Another gun-packing murderer that will be going down in flames !!!! nt
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:58 AM
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25. Are we talking burning at the stake here?
Is this a punishment you only invoke for "gun-packing" murderers?
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:53 PM
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42. Just like Tim McVeigh
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