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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 03:16 PM Original message |
EDITORIAL: Conceal carry should be extended to universities |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. That's what we need, the cast from Animal House armed n/t |
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armueller2001 (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Off campus fraternity houses |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Well done. The anti-rkba side doesn't know what they are talking about -- even when mock |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I'm sure whenever they have one of their |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. To have a CCW you have to be 21. |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Doesnt anybody snort cocaine off naked co-eds anymore ? |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. How old does one have to be to carry a gun under their shirt, stuck in the waist of their pants? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. That was illegal. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Deleted message |
GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Hey, You are the one who appeared not to kinow. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Well, I'm not from Texas. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Did Loughner have a concealed weapons permit? Didn't stop him, did it. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Pretty simple. Currently illegal. Bill will make it legal for CHL holders. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Your ignorance... is funny. And, at this point, will-full. Not so funny. n/t |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
36. 20 Year olds (with beer or otherwise) |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. They were armed |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 12:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
35. Off campus and under 21 |
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VoteProgressive (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. I tend to think we should not allow them on campus, but people were ..... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Not allowing them on campus didn't stop the VT killer. |
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VoteProgressive (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. If it causes less problems than it solves then I agree. Time will tell. |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Right or wrong: any editorial that must resort |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. You may want to check the CCW statistics. |
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VoteProgressive (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I wish I knew the average of the current CCW carrier. I think maturity helps. |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Here the Texas stats |
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VoteProgressive (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Thanks! |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. It's the tone, not the content I object to |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Nothing wrong with calling hysteria what it is. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Except when the other side's arguments are hysterical. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. You really should not post when you are ignorant about something. |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Neither should you respond without basic comprehension skills |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I comprehend just find, thank you. |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. So CCW permits do imbue one with magical powers? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Our percentage of criminals is very low compared to the general population. |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Now that I did not know. Thanks! |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. It would have been better if "hysterical" had been dropped. N/T |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. The voices in my head tell me to clean my supressors |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Yep. Anger and drunkenness plus loaded, legal gun in house for "self protection" |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 08:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. I suspect that they had a hidden history of violent behavior. N/T |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 06:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Which is my point exactly. While not physically violent, the people in both of these |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. Whats even funnier is how rare that is. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 07:00 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. And their victims are very, very dead.... |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Like I said, its a tragedy. But its very, very rare. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Isn't it time for y'all to pull out your special chart to show us how you |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Dunno about Copenhagen, but Tucson is safer than New Haven, CT.. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Blammo! Thanks XD, nice job. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. aww, c'mon you are no fun...let's try the copenhagen thing again... |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Nah, that strawman is dead. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Only if you "can't"" answer the question... |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Yeah, thats it. You got me. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Yep. And oh, while I'm at it why do you talk like a comic book? |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #71 |
99. Ohh, burn 0n me! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. whatever that has to do with it. Try Copenhagen again... |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. You're the one who's changing the subject, bringing Copenhagen into it. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. well, I thought it would be fun to see you squirm... |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. So you admit it was a distraction? Thanks. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I'm talkiing about now. That's it. What is the crime rate in Copenhagen now, not London vs. NYC |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. You sound as though you're trying to link the two. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 06:58 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Well let us do so. You can't have it both ways. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. So that's a yes? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. So, I see you don't have the data yourself. Why not? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. It's your claim, you do the research. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Well, then what were you arguing? I never said anything about New Haven. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I said exactly what I meant to. What you chose to read into it is your problem. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. No, you think you "win" because you set the boundaries of the argument on a before/after |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Comparing two things with different characteristics at one point in time... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I'm not making a causation/correlation argument, though. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. A statement of fact in support of what? Was it just a random fact? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. All right, then, substitute "is necessary to" for "equates." |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. You haven't made *any* argument that I'm aware of. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. I'll start with this thoughtful article on gun violence in Denmark. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. What is your claim? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. If I didn't make it clear, I believe that we have a more gun violent society than Denmark has. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Agreed. Next? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Why do the Danes have such stringent gun control laws? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I suspect that like a lot of Europe.. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Since several western european nations after WWII wrote or updated constitutions |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Even the Danish wikipedia is strangely silent on gun policy in DK |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. But a lot of liberals back in the day turned against the Bolsheviks, both in this country and |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. The labor unionists in Europe in the 20's could have been lifted from Madison, WI.. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Madison was peaceful, tho. I get your point about reaching a certain level of |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. As well they should.. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. My husband's family on the German side were Socialists and settled originally in Milwaukee. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Would that that idea would spread to the new world. nt |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 07:21 AM Response to Reply #57 |
74. Sorry, but no; death, like pregnancy, is a binary state |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
49. I can't speak for others |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Agreed. |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. thanks for that info |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. Who is this Tahmassebi? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I take it that you are unable to discuss the point made. N/T |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I take it you purposely omitted who he was. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. So you are indeed unable to debate a topic on the merits. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 08:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. What's to debate? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. You could try discussing the points raised in the article. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I'm sure Mr. Tahmassebi has better things to do |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. He isn't posting here. I am. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Actually, I couldn't care less |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #55 |
77. IOW you are unable to counter the points raised in the editorial. N/T |
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DWC (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
25. At the age of full accountability (21) |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Why 21? |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. In some places 18 is acceptable |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 04:58 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. I've found that silly too. |
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