Garden City Beach woman second family member killed by "accidental" shooting

[right2bfree]

Source: The Sun News.Com

News - Breaking News

Monday, Mar. 21, 2011

New details: Garden City Beach woman second family member killed by accidental shooting

by Kurt Knapek

Police said Monday that a 53-year-old Garden City woman who died Sunday was shot and killed by her ex-husband who she allowed to move back into their house after their divorce, and the same home where the couple's son also died of an accidental shooting in 2003.

Cheryl Gillespie was killed Sunday when her ex-husband, Gary, shot and killed her during a dispute with another family member, police said. Gary Gillespie, 59, is charged with murder.

On Dec. 1, 2003, Nicholas Allen ``Nick'' Gillespie was killed by an accidental, self-inflicted gunshot wound, police said. Nick Gillespie, 17, was found shot in the head in the living room of the home on East Surfwind Drive. He was pronounced dead at the hospital.

Police also revealed Monday that Gary and Cheryl Gillespie had been divorced for several years, but that Gary Gillespie moved back into the home a few years ago, said Sgt. Robert Kegler of Horry County police.

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Yup, another one of those devices that keep Americans, oh so "safe", responsible for another needless death by firearm!!

Mr. Obama, Please sir, enact the National Firearms Safety Act so that this doesn't have to happen to thousands of more
Americans who are killed by unstable people like this man, who should never have been allowed to possess a gun, again

[Hangingon]

1. With this mess of a family, you are blaming the gun?

Wow! The son dies of an apparent self inflicted wound. Rounds - possibly shells? - are all over the floor. There also seem to be witnesses.

Then the estranged husband is allowed back in the home where he becomes involved in an armed altercation with someone (unknown). He kills the wife with an errant shot. The son gets arrested somehow. Then the husband comes out of the bushes. Again there are witnesses.

What a surprise that there was a problem. No new law will stop this sort of mess from happening. If they didn't have guns this tribe woud have used knives or what ever was available.

[AlbertCat]

2. you are blaming the gun?

As Eddie Izzard said:

"THE GUN HELPS"

No one is "blaming it on the gun". Besides, in the case of the murder, the gun was used correctly. It's for killing something and it was used for that. The accidental fatal shooting was indeed an accident. But, y'know, with a knife, he might have just cut himself.


"No new law will stop this sort of mess from happening."

Indeed.

But eroding and stopping an attitude that "nothing can be done" and that guns are some kind of sacred artifact that plays no part in situations like this will definitely help.

[hack89]

3. So law do you propose that would have prevented this? nt

[Hangingon]

4. I don't know Eddie Izzard is and don't really care

"But, y'know, with a knife, he might have just cut himself." With these folks that is entirely likely. Most tools are dangerous.

"But eroding and stopping an attitude that "nothing can be done" and that guns are some kind of sacred artifact that plays no part in situations like this will definitely help." I do not have that attitude that nothing can be done but I am careful about my solutions. Obviously, the guns in this on-going tragedy played a part.

Tell me - the family has had problems with the police but no felony convictions or jail time and no adjudication of mental illness. The now dead with, despite sexual abuse complaints, apparently did not file a complain or get a restraining order. What would have been done to keep guns out of his hands? Keep in mind the need for due process. Please do not tell me outlaw gun - because then you are blaming guns.

By the way, a gun is not a sacred artifact and referring to them as "sacred artifacts" as you did in your response is offensive. I do not appreciate the attribution. A gun is a tool and should mot be misused or used without training.

[Hoyt]

9. Agree with your last sentence. Guns do play a part, and glamorizing/promoting them makes it worse.

[right2bfree]

12. Indeed so. Once the NFSA is passed many of these murders and suicides will drop precipitously. Its..

..only a matter of time until this occurs in the United States, as elsewhere too.

A few more mass spree-killings and most Americans, who no longer own guns, about 65
percent or more nowadays, will be behind a program that gets the guns out of thee hands
of those least mentally-able to use them in a safe and lawful manner. And without killing
someone accidentally, or by a willful act, due to thier inherently mental illnesses and/or
thier drug and alcohol addictions and abuse behaviors.

[RSillsbee]

13. What alternate universe do you live in?

More and more states are easing gun restricitons. Two states in the last 3 months have gone to permitless carry and several more have similar legislation pending. we are down to two states that don't have some form of concealed carry and one of them should be shall issue by the end of the year.

Please demonstrrate how things are swinging towards more restrictions

[slackmaster]

19. You're just making stuff up.

There is no "NFSA."

[rl6214]

23. NFSA

National Flying Squirrel Association

Welcome to the National Flying Squirrel Association!
The gathering place for everything pertaining to flying furballs and the people that are owned by them.

http://www.nfsa.us/

[rl6214]

22. NFSA-National Flying Squirrel Association?

http://www.nfsa.us/

Welcome to the National Flying Squirrel Association!
The gathering place for everything pertaining to flying furballs and the people that are owned by them.


That's one of the few references to the NFSA I can find.

[GreenStormCloud]

26. There is no such legislation in congress.

It exist only in your mind. Or maybe you really work for Crosstime Traffic and have gotten your alternates confused. (Let's see how many catch that reference.)

[rl6214]

5. I would question whether this was really accidental

If it was indeed NOT accidental, it really dosen't matter what tool was used, he would have killed her anyway.

In order for President Obama to enact the National Firearms Safety Act, it would have to get to his desk first. I don't think that will ever happen. Too many pro gun Republicans AND Democrats in the house to get it passed.

[Kennah]

7. +10

"Ooops, sorry, I just don't know how it is that I accidentally shot that bitch of an ex-wife of mine, I mean, umm. I want to talk to my lawyer."

[LAGC]

6. Outlaw marriage.

It's the only sane choice.

[rrneck]

8. Stupid ain't illegal. nt

[slackmaster]

10. Please explain what you mean by "the National Firearms Safety Act"

Thanks.

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[slackmaster]

16. It's made up of nice words

National - Something for all of us
Firearms - Pretty straightforward, gets right to the point
Safety - Who could possibly be against safety?
Act - It would mean we're DOING something

[GreenStormCloud]

11. With a population of over 300 million, there will be stories like this.

That is no reason to try to take my guns away.

[right2bfree]

20. How do we know that there is no reason for people to fear your guns? nt

[BrookBrew]

21. Same reason you dont have to be afraid of a black man in a hoodie

the vast majority of time he is just coming back from a workout...

But maybe we should ban people from wearing hoodies because some people (of all races) wear them during crimes. We can ban bandannas, especially red and blue, I mean that would end the blood and crips. No more bandannas, no more gangs.

Maybe the Anti Saloon League (oops VPC) can push some law, the Assault Sweatshirt Protection Act.

[slackmaster]

24. I don't care whether you fear my guns or not

That's your problem, not mine.

[GreenStormCloud]

25. You can fear what you want.

The statistics show that you are 27 times more likely to be struck by lightning that illegally shot and killed by a CCW holder. So if you are afraid of me and my guns, then a thunderstorms should be a terror to you.

[Atypical Liberal]

15. What act?

Yup, another one of those devices that keep Americans, oh so "safe", responsible for another needless death by firearm!!

Why do you want to use one of the 30,0000 annual firearm homicide cases to take away the firearms from the other 40-80 million firearm owners each year who commit no crimes with their firearms?

Mr. Obama, Please sir, enact the National Firearms Safety Act so that this doesn't have to happen to thousands of more
Americans who are killed by unstable people like this man, who should never have been allowed to possess a gun, again

What is this National Firearms Safety Act you are talking about?

[Callisto32]

17. The prez unilaterally enacts legislation, now, eh?

[jeepnstein]

18. I'm seeing a pattern here.

It's too soon to say, but I'm suspecting these "accidents" aren't all that accidental. "Accidentally" shot during a domestic dispute? Seeing as how the shooter is charged with murder I kind of doubt the "It was an accident, the gun went off by itself." argument is going to hold water.