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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:14 PM
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Jersey jealously guards monopoly of force .
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/judge_denies_handgun_permit_fo.html

A victim of kidnapping is not once , but twice denied a carry permit .





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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 09:44 AM
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1. Jersey is the one of the worst of the anti-rights states
Bloomie would feel right at home with its classist and racist laws
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:33 AM
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2. TPartiers, those afraid of the dark, cowboys, intimidators, neo-militia, border klan, mentally ill,
those looking for an excuse to shoot, etc...

- Killing utensils are best left at home
- More paranoia from those who can't walk in public without a gun to pat for confidence.
- Carrying in public is tacky and uncivilized
- There are lots of folks against toting in public.
- CCW holders deserve derision.
- Most of you won't get it out of the holster before the situation you fear is over.
- Arming the public is hardly progressive.
- Grown men playing cowboy with deadly weapons.
- etc.......

:sarcasm:

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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:35 AM
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3. Some states are just behind the time ...strangely these states are known for corruption ...
When I think of corruption New Jersey and Illinois immediately pop into my mind. Both states have a long history of corruption and both states make it extremely difficult or impossible for honest citizens to carry a firearm for self defense.

It almost seems as if these states are run by criminals for criminals.



44 Charged by U.S. in New Jersey Corruption Sweep


A two-year corruption and international money-laundering investigation stretching from the Jersey Shore to Brooklyn to Israel and Switzerland culminated in charges against 44 people on Thursday, including three New Jersey mayors, two state assemblymen and five rabbis, the authorities said.

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Mr. Marra said that average citizens “don’t have a chance” against the culture of influence peddling the investigation had unearthed.

Even veteran political observers were taken aback by the scope of the investigation. The mayors of Hoboken, Secaucus and Ridgefield were among those arrested.

“This is so massive,” said Joseph Marbach, a political scientist at Seton Hall University. “It’s going to just reinforce the stereotype of New Jersey politics and corruption.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/nyregion/24jersey.html





Illinois has long legacy of public corruption
At least 79 elected officials have been convicted of wrongdoing since 1972


Illinois’ official slogan is the “Land of Lincoln,” but an equally apt descriptor would be the “Land of Greased Palms.”

The state, Cook County and its governmental seat, Chicago, have a long history of corruption by elected and appointed officials.

The culture of corruption dates back to the late 19th century, when a gambling-house owner named Michael Cassius McDonald created the city's first political machine, establishing a model in which officials would distribute contracts, jobs and social services in exchange for political support, according to a scholarly history of organized crime in Chicago by Robert Lombardo, a sociology professor and former Chicago and Cook County police officer.

Its persistence was documented in Sept. 7, 2006 by the Chicago Sun-Times, which reported that at least 79 current or former Illinois, Chicago or Cook County elected officials had been found guilty of a crime by judges, juries or their own pleas since 1972. The paper provided this tally of the tarnished: three governors, two other state officials, 15 state legislators, two congressmen, one mayor, three other city officials, 27 aldermen, 19 Cook County judges and seven other Cook County officials.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28141995/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/


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