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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:40 PM
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North Dakota: Governor Signs Employee Protection Bill. (Allows Guns In Car In Parking Lot)
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6632

North Dakota: Employee Protection Bill Signed by Governor Dalrymple



Friday, April 15, 2011

Earlier today, House Bill 1438 was signed into law by Governor Jack Dalrymple. This employee protection legislation previously passed both chambers of the North Dakota Legislature with tremendous bipartisan support. HB 1438 will go into effect on August 1.


Sponsored by state Representative Scot Kelsh (D-11), HB 1438 will allow North Dakota employees to store their firearms in locked personal vehicles on publicly accessible parking lots without fear of being fired. HB 1438 is extremely important to hunters, target shooters and concealed weapons permit holders. Businesses have no legitimate interest in micromanaging the lawful contents of one's private vehicle.



Yes, it is from the NRA-ILA website. The news is so recent that other media doesn't have it yet.

Bit by bit gun rights legislation is advancing.

BTW - A certain poster who thinks that Democrats don't support pro-gun bills may wish to notice that this bill was sponsored by a Democrat.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:46 PM
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1. My only question is about the name of the bill
How will keeping a gun in your car protect you while your at work? You won't have the gun if someone comes in and starts shooting up the place. I'm not pooh poohing the law, just the name.
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:21 PM
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3. It's meant to protect you from being terminated
By your employer if your car is searched while on company property. What is the benefit of having a CCW permit you can't use? If you can't take your gun to work with you, which you then leave in your car, then your CCW permit is largely useless since many people spend so much time traveling to and from work.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:46 AM
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5. The fuss all began with Weyerhaeuser some years ago.
Weyerhaeuser had a policy in the employee's manual that banned guns in employee vehicles that were in the company parking lot. However, some employees were going hunting after work and wanted to go directly from work to the hunting area instead of going to home to get the gun and then driving to hunt. The new plant manager was an anti-gun fanatic and had security search employee vehicles. Hunting shotguns were found. That was before the wide spread of CCWs. Media reports don't mention any handguns being found. Several employees were fired.

To protect the employees laws like the one mentioned are spreading from state to state. Since the spread of CCWs, permit holders want to have their guns available during their commute, and if they go from work to someplace other than home. Nobody is demanding to take the gun to the actual workplace, only to leave the guns in a locked car. In the states that have this law there has been no problem. But that doesn't stop the antis from crying, "It will make parking lots into OK Corrals."

Most companies have a car gun ban in their employee manuals, inserted by company lawyers, but in practice the local managers don't attempt to enforce it. Don't Ask, Don't Tell. A few companies and managers are anti-gun so there is a push for these kind of laws.

Weyerhaeuser still has a car gun ban in their manual and is still screaming warnings about "Wild West", etc. Hasn't happened but they still scream about it.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:27 PM
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2. Employee Endangerment Act.
Act of vandalism against worker rights.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 01:36 PM
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6. How is prohibiting a corporation from searching workers' cars in a publicly accessible lot
"an act of vandalism against worker rights"?

This law protects workers from the arbitrary exercise of corporate power, not the other way around. Unless you believe that workers have a fundamental right to have their property searched by their employers outside the workplace.

I am OK with "no guns at work" policies. However, I don't believe corporations should be able to control the contents of an employee's car in a publicly accessible lot, nor do I think corporations should have free reign to conduct mass searches of employee property outside the workplace.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 02:03 PM
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8. It is not. I imagine there are illegal drugs in cars also. Who cares. n-t
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:36 PM
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4. Oh noes!



Why, the number of murders in North Dakota might go up by 11%!!! Or even 22%!!!



(from 9 to like 10 or 11).






Or it could be a statistical fluctuation.

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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 01:38 PM
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7. All states should.....
As long as the gun is secure in the vehicle, there is no downside.

And it is stupid to expect a person, who has to drive through a bad area, to leave their gun at home.
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