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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:30 PM Original message |
Our view: Gun laws are taking a radical turn (USA Today) |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. I bet this'll get buried. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. ... |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Our View is that everything is going just as it needs to |
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NewMoonTherian (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
45. Wrong. The right direction, but not nearly quickly enough. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. "guns anywhere, anytime and in the hands of just about anyone" is a fear mongering untruth. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. That is the GOP/NRA Master Plan and folks are on to them |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I don;t think so, because I've not heard anyone except anti-rkba types say it. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The truth is bitter sometimes |
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Bold Lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Then provide some proof. Oh, you cannot city yourself as the source. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I've posted all the stories from all the states where this is happening - it was called "spam" |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Yeah, because why should people carry guns in public places? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Dont bitch and whine about the DU moderators...eom |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. ROFL |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
42. Yeah, we gotta watch out for for all those pro-rights conspiracies on our liberal website. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Yes, and your point is? NT |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
89. and this is bad how? n/t |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I don't think truth means what you think it means. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. "fear mongering untruth" -- nice shorthand for the entirety of NRA-speak! |
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Bold Lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. NRA - speak translated= You cannot provide proof. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. keep your head in the sand if it makes you more comfortable..... |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. FWIW: I don't like it when the NRA does it either. But the pro-RKBA side is not alone in doing it. |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Really can you prove that statement? Where can I find the info |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. In my state the NRA supported bills that maintained certain off limit places .. |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Your link leads to a article celebrating gun access to airports. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:41 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. If the NRA's position was "anywhere anyplace" then they wouldn't have supported the prohibit places |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
61. What is wrong with legally carried guns in the non-secure areas of airports? n/t |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Truth is irrelevant. Don't expect a reply. n/t |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. guns anywhere, anytime and in the hands of just about anyone |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. hardly "guns anywhere, anytime and in the hands of just about anyone" |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Carrying a concealed weapon |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Thank you. I am happy with civil liberties. I wish you joy, too. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
54. Carrying a concealed weapon into a tavern or a college classroom |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Do you honestly believe that because you've managed to do that |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. There are 80 million (legal) gunowners in this country |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. My argument is not with gun owners, legal or not |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. How many times have you used your gun (draw/brandished/fired) |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Fair enough. |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
90. people |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
57. To most people, living in a gun toting free society is a civil liberty |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. The majority of my co-workers owned firearms and a high percentage ... |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. The whole point is that your friends/co-workers knew you and that you carried, |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. It's against DU rules to call another poster a liar |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I have little knowledge of Fla. gun laws, but I don't lie |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
84. I never called you a liar, DU rules specifically forbid such behavior |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Well, it was the truth |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Of course it was NT |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Now I understand why you carry a gun around. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Clearly you DON'T understand |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. This is truly fascinating. It stops you from running your mouth in public |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #68 |
97. Could have been LEOs |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. That's interesting because open carry is currently illegal in Florida |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. I lived there from 1978-82. Sorry I'm not up to date with Fla. law |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Your post implied that you had seen this recently, not three decades ago, when it probably was legal |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I never implied recently. You infered it. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. If living in a gun toting free society was a civil liberty |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Why? To create more paperwork? |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. Unless someone is open carrying, |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Apparently there are about 8 million out there |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Too bad the Constitution does not support your bigotry. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #73 |
103. You think that disapproval of anti social behavior is bigotry? |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. I would think most people don't even think about whether |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
102. I think you are right. Most people don't think about it. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
83. Why should I be scared of the Boogeyman? |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #83 |
101. We've already established that you're not afraid of others |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #57 |
95. "To most people" is a reliable indicator of an imminent argumentum ad numerum/populum |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Meanwhile crime rates keep falling and you keep wondering why. |
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sylvi (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Funny how that keeps being ignored, isn't it? |
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Smokewagon (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. What a load... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
10. op eds from scared gun grabbers equal what? |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. it's called truth. |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Heller Vs DC, go read about it, |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Don't forget, that Obama guy said so too |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. You are either lying, or wilfully ignorant. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Firearms also save lives ... |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
55. Like it or not, guns do kill people |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
91. Automobiles, pools, knives, and poison also kill people. |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. Can it be? Sanity? |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. The Deterrence Society! Peace through mutual assured destruction.. |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. Not mutually assured - you don't have a gun |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
26. USA Today: shit news rag. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
96. McPaper, indeed; interesting how none of the usual anti-RKBA posters are impugning the source |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
29. Why lie? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Great post! (n/t) |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #29 |
56. You missed it by that much |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
79. Exactly. (n/t) |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
92. I think it's a little more complicated than just making the drugs legal. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
40. The line you emphasized is not true. |
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Chris_Texas (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:10 AM Response to Original message |
46. B-But guns are scary!!!! |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. no no......guns kill people.....haven't you heard? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
47. NRA is on ALEC |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
98. There's a dangerous logic to extreme political rhetoric... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
50. laughing stock around the world for our rambo-esque attitude toward guns |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I'll never understand the fixation with a before-my-time Vietnam action movie |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. yet you get the point - I am quite confident about that |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. I understand the insinuation you're trying so hard to reach for, if that's what you mean. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
78. The first Rambo movie was actually pretty good, IMO - not at all the silliness |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
74. I don't care about the rest of the world's opinion |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
81. When I meet my British and Canadian friends, they laugh |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
99. Just us, and Switzerland, huh? |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. heehee |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
58. Good post! Time to grow up America! |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
85. Typical, OP only showed one side of the story! n-t |
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