Rally calls for end to campus gun ban

[Quetzal]

Rally calls for end to campus gun ban

Steve Kovalski stood in the shade of the University Memorial Center on Wednesday and watched a "Second Amendment Rally" at the University of Colorado. Resting on the 54-year-old's hip, over khaki pants and under a tan jacket, was a black nylon gun holster.

"It's empty," said Kovalski. "But there will come a time that I will fill that holster."

Kovalski, a Louisville resident, was among a handful of supporters at Wednesday's rally, sponsored by CU's College Republicans. Students and community members are calling upon CU's Board of Regents to revoke its weapons ban on all four campuses.

The Legislature passed a law last year allowing concealed weapons to be carried by permit in most parts of the state, including college campuses.

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Rally calls for end to campus gun ban

You've got to be kidding me. Guns on a fricking college campus???!!!!

[NuttyFluffers]

1. Was it Texas Tech?

or some other university that had the sniper case around the 60s?

Well, either way it seems like people don't really learn. you can have your guns yes, but you can't justify having them everywhere. It's like saying just because there's a federal emergency oil reserve that since it's public you have a right to walk around their with a gun as a private citizen. What ever happened to safety issues? Clear and present danger?

The first amendment has restrictions, hell the second amendment has restrictions (on swords, knives, throwing darts, blowguns) but actively eliminating restrictions on guns? mindblowing.

i support the constitution and freedoms, but there are somethings that are not ... wise.

[TexasMexican]

5. It was UT

The University of Texas in Austin.

That being said why are you equating people wanting to carry handguns for thier own protection with a murderer who used a rifle?

Do you somehow think that guy with the rifle from the clock tower did what he did because guns were allowed on campus?

[MrBenchley]

6. Maybe he's read some of the threads on here recently

and seen the bloodthirsty glee the RKBA crowd's been expressing....

[MrBenchley]

2. If College Republicans want to shoot guns

their fuehrer has given them a dandy little war to go and join...but some how they seem reluctant to join in?

[pnb]

3. What makes guns on campus more egregious than another public place?

Do they somehow have less use there? Or do they become more deadly on a college campus?

[Township75]

4. Any other stereotypes of college students you want to perpetuate?

Somehow they are less worthy of their rights?

Seriously, if you are so concerned about this, shouldn't you just stay clear of any campus. Do you have any idea how many college students have cars? Do you have any idea how many college students drink?

YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. CARS ON A FRICKING COLLEGE CAMPUS!

[solinvictus]

7. UAB

The University of Alabama at Birmingham is something of a dangerous campus. It's known for a high rate of crime including car theft, muggings, and forcible rape. The campus police there are a joke and often don't even want to trouble themselves with reporting a crime. About 5-6 years ago, a young woman was leaving an evening class. She was walking on an overpass leading to the parking lot and was forcibly raped at knifepoint 30 feet over rush hour traffic at dusk. If she'd had a pistol, it could've made a difference.

[iverglas]

9. no, not violent crime - not in Alabama!

She was walking on an overpass leading to the parking lot and was forcibly raped at knifepoint 30 feet over rush hour traffic at dusk. If she'd had a pistol, it could've made a difference.

Yeah; she could have been dead. Or just badly injured. Engaging in a struggle with a guy with his knife to your throat is just such a smart thing to do.

As it was, she was sexually assaulted. It happens. It's a drag, but it isn't dead. Some of you boys seem to need to get over what continues to look to me like either a phobia of "violation" ... or a distasteful desire to exploit women's experience in the service of your own agenda.

Have you asked the woman in question whether she would have WANTED to have a pistol - or to go to school on a campus where her fellow students routinely carried firearms? I didn't think so.

And puhlease, no more of the "no means no" posters of tarts with their assault rifles. We know what happened to the last perpetrator of that ploy. And just as we know that there are self-interested sellouts (or victims of manipulation) in the African-American crowd, or any other disadvantaged crowd, we can be sure we'll find some in the women crowd. If they want to speak for themselves, they should feel free. Hmm, perhaps natasha1 will grace us with a description of what she'd do to anybody who tried it on ...

.

[MrBenchley]

10. Quick...

isn't the whole point of letting neurotics wander around in public with pistols in their pockets that criminals in places like Alabama would be deterred, not knowing whehter their potential vicitm might be armed?

Let's ask that old guy leering at co-eds over there--the one with with the empty holster flapping in the breeze...he looks like a sane responsible citizen...(snicker)

[iverglas]

11. you mean ...

Let's ask that old guy leering at co-eds over there--
the one with with the empty holster flapping in the breeze...

... the one saying things like:

"It's empty. But there will come a time that I will fill that holster."

?

... probably while polishing his gun, while gazing at the bottle blonde in the trenchcoat stroking the assault rifle, certain in the knowledge that she wouldn't be saying "no means no" to him ... for long ...

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[MrBenchley]

12. The glorious revolution has found its leader....

(snicker)

[solinvictus]

13. No, I haven't asked her

but I belive she should've had a choice in the matter. Campus cops at UAB are evocative of Chief Wiggum of "The Simpsons" as they're not too interested in pursuing criminals. They typically try to ignore the issue and let Birmingham PD handle the problem.

Otherwise, I carried anyway when I attended 8-10PM classes. I simply kept the pistol in my bookbag. Though illegal, lots of other students did likewise as the campus Keystone Kops were too busy to actively patrol the area and do their job. Additional security measures were often useless as a practical measure. The student paper performed a check on emergency call boxes on campus and found that better than half were inoperable. UAB campus cops would practically ignore property and even violent crimes. Lots of help there, huh?

To give you an idea about UAB, it's sprawled out over a downtown area on the south side of Birmingham. Classes are spread out over a 10-12 square block area. It's conceivable, if not likely, to have to walk anywhere from 8 to 12 blocks from the classroom to a parking lot or space, especially if you are a night student. In 1992, an adjunct professor's wife was leaving her job at the campus library about 11PM on a Thursday night. A hiker found her body the following Saturday morning on a utility access road overlooking the city. There was also a young woman abducted at the university center while using an ATM. Violent crime wasn't uncommon and on several occasions, I found used syringes in the park near my classes. I suppose you can have a flippant attitude toward violent crime if you like, but I'd prefer that people have an opportunity to defend themselves with effective tools.

[MrBenchley]

8. Quick--who is surprised?

The "College Republicans" come up with a half-witted idea, and the RKBA crowd leaps to its feet to applaud...

And out of CU's 52,000 students, the Hitler Youth got a "handful" of supporters...

By the way, I'm intrigued by the guy over 50 hanging around a campus wearing an empty holster...wonder who that nutcase is...a part-time student? A janitor? A pervert with a penchant for coeds?

Wasn't there a thread in the lounge about a college janitor who was moaning that "liberals" kept making him tear down "all ten bills of rights" whenever he scotch-taped them to a door?