Dog poisonings blamed on anger at wolves - Salon News wire.

[DavidMS]

Don't know if it goes here but it is a justice/public safty isssue (or enviromental issue). Don't know which.

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/06/07/dogs/index.html
Two rangers at a campground store knew immediately what was wrong: The couple's pet Sammy was the latest victim of a poisoning spree -- likely aimed at wolves -- that has killed eight dogs and sickened 13 others.

Authorities believe someone has been putting poison in hot dogs and balls of meat and scattering them along roads in western Wyoming and eastern Idaho.

SNIP

There have been no arrests, but the poison and how it was used closely resemble instructions posted on the Internet by Tim Sundles, an ammunition store owner in Carmen, Idaho.

STUPID IDIOT. Is the kindest thing I can say about these Cretins.

Edited for Clarity.

[Randall]

1. Take care of strays.

Hawaii has so many stray animals this happens fairly often. One person even wrote an editorial that told how the guy was capturing non-tagged cats and humanely killing them and eating them, which I feel is perfectly fine. I personally think all dogs and cats should be required to be fixed unless the owner pays a $500 breeder fee. People get up in arms about people poisoning some animals, but yet no one seems to care about stomping snakes or lizards into the ground. It's funny that some lives have value, while others don't.

[1monster]

2. I take care of my six cats, four of which are rescues, don't stomp

lizards into the ground... I like lizards, nurse the poor starving cats that occasionally wander into my yard back to health and hope they stick around long enough to be nuetered/spayed and found homes.

Killing cats that are not tagged is not humane. I don't have any of my cats "tagged." Putting a collar on a cat is damned dangerous for the cat and I'm not going to get ear tags for them -- how cruel.

One of my cats chooses to be an out door cat, one goes out about three days out of seven, one goes out rarely, and three don't go out at all. Many of my neighbors have cats and they allow them out when they want out. If any of us heard of someone "humanely" killing our pets and eating them, I think it would be really in the killers best interests to leave town FAST.

How sick.

[Frangible]

4. Agreed

I read this article yesterday and was saddened by the pictures of the poisoned dogs. I don't get how people can enjoy hurting and killing animals, especially dogs and cats. Dogs in particular, give such love and loyalty to humans, it just seems like a betrayal on our part.

[Randall]

7. Cats can be food

Why is it wrong to eat a cat, but not wrong to eat chicken? Snake and gator are okay, and so is beef, but I suppose dog is bad too?

I could care less if someone eats stray animals, more power to them for utilizing this resource. I would prefer that they don't kill them slowly or in a torturous way or just kill them for fun. I've seen other people like you try to get guys arrested for feeding dogs and cats to large pythons or gators. Those animals need to eat too, and any medium sized mammal is fine. You need to come to grips with the reality that the whole world won't become vegetarians because you think it's a good way to go. Deal with it, because all domesticated animals are just about the same as far as I'm concerned.

[TX-RAT]

10. Do the words cruelty to animals mean anything to you?

(I've seen other people like you try to get guys arrested for feeding dogs and cats to large pythons or gators.)

As well they should be.
Lets try felony cruelty to animals.

[Randall]

11. What should they eat?

What should these animals eat? Should we teach them to eat corn and barley? What makes rabbits and chickens an okay food source, but not dogs and cats? Just answer that one simple question.

[TX-RAT]

12. They shouldn't be pets.

[NorthernSpy]

6. humans are the problem

It never fails: humans move into a wild place; bulldoze the entire ecosystem; build houses and shopping malls and hotels; pave everything in sight...

... and then a cat eats a lizard, and suddenly it's time to assassinate stray pets to "protect" "our" wildlife.

Dogs and cats tend to stick close to human habitations, because these provide the conditions that they are adapted to exploit. If you want to keep cats and dogs out of an area, then the absolutely critical step to take is to ban humans from living there.

The destruction of the natural world is the result of human appetites and human stupidity. The other animals are not to blame.


The single best thing anyone can do for Hawaii -- or any other threatened place -- is to get the hell out and don't come back.


Mary

[MrBenchley]

3. Disgraceful....

"There have been no arrests, but the poison and how it was used closely resemble instructions posted on the Internet by Tim Sundles, an ammunition store owner in Carmen, Idaho.
"I didn't feel like I could legally solicit anyone to kill wolves ... But I did feel I could provide information for freedom-minded people," he said. He denied involvement in the poisonings. "

"Freedom-minded"...ho-kay. Guess that's the new shorthand for hate-filled malicious loony.

[TexasMexican]

5. I dont agree with animal control

I dont think strays should be rounded up and executed just because they werent in someone's house.

I dont mind stray animals, I wouldnt kill an animal just because it doesnt have a home, we dont do that to people, why should we do it to animals, let nature take its course.

IMO the only approrpirate time to kill a stray animal is if it is causing problems, like attacking people or destroying property, which ironically these are the same reasons that I would think it would be appropriate to kill a person (homeless or not).

Its definately wrong to indiscriminately poison animals, the person doing this should be killed (but he probably wont).

[LibLabUK]

8. Problem is...

Stray animals are a reservoir for disease. This can not only affect humans, but also other animals.

"Its definately wrong to indiscriminately poison animals, the person doing this should be killed (but he probably wont)."

That's a little extreme don't you think??

The death penalty is hardly justified for the murder of a human... and you're suggesting it for animal cruelty?

Do you support the use of animals in medicine? Or would you like to see the researchers killed too?

[iverglas]

9. very true

Stray animals are a reservoir for disease. This can not only affect humans, but also other animals.

One of the many stray/feral cats who hang around my properties was found to have feline leukemia a couple of years ago. I suspect he was not a feral and rather had strayed or been abandoned, since he approached us and happily spent 2 days in my office while I tried to feed and hydrate him (he was almost skeletal) and treat his abscess, and waited for the diagnosis from my vet. Upon receiving it, I had him euthanized at the Humane Society; cheaper than my vet, and wise to let the HS know about the presence of the disease.

I have four cats (all strays), neighbours have cats, and we have an "official" feral cat colony on the block, with a varying population of usually somewhere around half a dozen; I offer them my garage for food and shelter, and other neighbours feed them, adopt them when possible, etc. One of my neighbours' cats, who had been a stray, was diagnosed with FIV (cat AIDS) some years ago. Both sick cats could indeed have infected others. And of course they breed, creating more problems. We seldom have female ferals, but my neighbour adopted and spayed one a couple of years ago, and I'm waiting for next time I see Ms. Kitty, who had a kitten with her last fall so I couldn't remove her then, to nab her and get her to the spay-neuter clinic; the Humane Society has promised to cooperate by donating vaccinations if we catch any of the ferals.

As far as "letting nature take its course" in the case of dogs and cats, that doesn't actually mean leaving them to their own devices. Dogs and cats are bred to be domestic animals. Leaving a sick or hungry dog or cat "in the wild" is not natural at all, and can be simply cruel, as well as endangering domestic pets and the rest of the fauna in the ecosystem, where dogs and cats are unnatural predators. If the ferals here weren't being taken care of, it would truly be kinder to euthanize them. In fact, it would be one of those hard responsibilities, in this case a responsibility that human beings took on when they domesticated the species.