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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 04:31 AM
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This, I'll defend:
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 04:32 AM by DoNotRefill
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubgallery.asp?id_=771658



against all comers, even if it means going to jail for illegally possessing or using a gun to defend her with.

w00t!!!!
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 04:35 AM
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1. You named your baby Ted Rall?
:shrug:
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 01:02 PM
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17. Nope, Eva Catherine...
smartie-pants...I was going to say something else, a bit more profane, but the "Daddy-genes" have kicked in with a vengeance. :)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 07:12 PM
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:33 PM
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33. I guess you didn't see the original post before it was edited...
My joke is much funnier in that context :think:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 05:15 AM
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2. Cool...go post that on one of the sexism threads
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 05:16 AM by nothingshocksmeanymo
Men seem to understand other men's primal urges more than they are willing to understand women. :D

She's beautiful, btw...congrats again.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:54 PM
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13. it's other men that scare me.
I try to understand women, but don't think I'm really capable of it, so I fake it as best I can. Of course, my wife is fairly "manly" in that if you mess with her, she WILL kick your ass (not "you" specifically, "you" generally, and that "you" includes me)

Thanks :)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 12:33 AM
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29. In my experience you do well with women
nothing like having a strong one behind you...and didn't she nurture a beautiful daughter? I KNOW you are up....it's night number 2 :D
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:11 AM
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31. Yup, was up....but just got back from the hospital.
the two main women in my life will be coming home tomorrow, Gawd willing and the creek don't rise....

BTW, the baby takes after my wife. I spent a couple of hours last night watching my daughter sleep, and she has my wife's facial features (thank goodness) and her "facial tics", too. Watching her was like watching a tiny version of my wife sleeping....they even have the same "Elvis" lip movement in their sleep.

I don't know why my wife puts up with me, but I'm INCREDIBLY glad she does. That makes me the luckiest man alive in my book...
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:05 PM
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34. No, citizen, I'll gladly step into that gap.
(Almost) Always bubbly (yeah, I know, me... bubbly) and joyful at the birth of a the issue of a fellow poster's loins.

You've earned the eternal and unequivocal right to defense for someone other than yourself, bone of your bone, flesh of your flesh.

From what experience I personally have, and I've never been a parent, early stage parents are quite particularly vociferous defenders of quite unlikely scenarios.

But still, it's good to hear of your good news. You have a big open book you've got to write.

Good luck.
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 05:50 AM
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3. She's beautiful,
congratulations!
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 05:52 AM
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4. That is a beautiful picture...
...of a precious child. Congratulations, and all the best to both you and her in the years to come.

BTW, assuming you live in the U.S. and do not have a criminal or "mental health" record you should be able to purchase a firearm legally without fear of prosecution from the authorities. State laws vary, and you will have to undergo an instant background check from the FBI, but I don't know of any U.S. state that out-and-out prohibits the purchase & possession of firearms from a licensed dealer as long as all Federal, State, & local laws are observed--even New Jersey (Gungeon-related joke; pay it no mind).
I would URGE you, if you do decide to take such a step, to first take a training course in the safe use, handling & storage of firearms--it's a RESPONSIBILITY as much as it is a RIGHT. When I took possession of my first firearm - courtesy of a birthday gift from my Dad - I was told the following: "remember, you are responsible for every round (bullet) that comes out of the business end of this barrel--you and no one else. And every round that does belongs to you - whether it's in your hands or not." I remember those words like I do my own name, and they're exactly right.
Follow the laws, learn to shoot, and practice safety first, always, and foremost, and you'll do just fine. All of it becomes second-nature after a while.
Again, the best to you and your precious child.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:57 PM
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14. Good advice....but...
I, on average, shoot 100K+ rounds of ammo a year...so I'm hardly a novice.

thanks...
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 06:58 AM
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5. and you DID name her after me!

I'm so humbly pleased! (My middle name is for my maternal grandmother Eva.) hehehe.

(And is there a reason for that earlobe being concealed by someone's fat finger? <Imagine what that would look like if there were a trigger in the vicinity in the photo.> My niece, whose middle name is my first name, also inherited my, uh, quirky earlobe. Her too? No worries; it is a useful obstacle to idiocies like puncturing one's body, and seems to be genetically connected to big-brainedness -- it is acompanied by strange detours in the inside ear structures, presumably to make room for the excess grey matter -- and my folks always called it my "smart" ear.)

So of course now, having evidently been selected as, um, dog-mother, I shall be taking an interest and offering unsolicited advice.

Firearms out of house, now. Or I'll come over and ... and ... talk a lot. You can imagine.

Congratulations!

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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:14 AM
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9. in case memory fails

May 11, 2004:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=56209&mesg_id=56494&page=
"The baby to be is going to be HUGE, she's currently three weeks ahead of her actual gestational size."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=56209&mesg_id=56551&page=
"<My sister's> first kid's head was in the nature of a pumpkin. ... I have a giant head too of course. ... I think 'iverglas' would be a charming name for a baby."

The power of suggestion?

If the baby's RC, I suggest that "iverglas" be her baptismal saint's name.

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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:51 PM
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12. Iverglas....
I didn't know your middle name was Eva. I'm curious....do you pronounce it "Eve-a" or "Ay-va"? We're pronouncing it "Ay-va".

We're not taking the guns out of the house. We are, of course, locking the guns up (so securely that the police, with a warrant, would have trouble getting to them), unless my wife or I are carrying them.

The "fat finger" is my wife's. For some reason, she swelled with pregnancy. I find it kind of cute. In the larger picture, she's just finished breastfeeding Eva. To save bandwidth (the original photo is 1.8 mb) I cropped it to just my daughter's face.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 01:20 PM
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20. suuuure you didn't
But of course you didn't, so this is merely cosmic serendipity and the forces of nature at work.

It's actually Eve, but the grandmother it's for is Eva, pronounced ee-va (completely English, from Nottinghamshire), and just varied to make it more mellifluous with the rest of my name I assume.

Oddly, my sister's middle name is Lillian, and it wasn't until years later that we found out that that grandmother's real name was Lily, and that my Captain in the Dragoon Guards grandfather had insisted she change it on their marriage certificate, since "Lily" was too common. ("Common" as in "low-class". Like "May" was too common for George V's wife, and she became "Mary" on marriage.) My first brother got that grandfather's name intact as his middle name, but my second brother got what my maternal grandfather (whose mother died when he was a child) thought was his name, Edward, when his name was really Edmund, as he found out when he ordered a birth certificate from the UK when he retired and also discovered he was a year younger than he'd thought. My niece who has my name as her middle was going to have both of them, making her (shall we say) Daisy Iverglas Eve Gomez (my sister decided to let her partner, an only child, have the surname, but she got all the other names). But she then settled on assigning the third name to my nephew instead of me, so the niece is Daisy Iverglas Eugenie Gomez. My nephew is of course Eugene, not Eugenie.

As well, of course, and you might not have known, "iverglas" is pronounced "ee-vair-gla", being a play on words -- "I, verglas", "verglas" being the ice that a freezing rain storm leaves behind, and "hiver" (ee-vair) being "winter", thus "winter-glass", although "glas" actually means "knell" -- so it's a triple play, on my name too. "Eve", appropriately varied to "Eva", is just a nickname for "eve-air-glas".

So you see, your naming your daughter "Eva" after Eve/me is entirely within the parameters of the relevant name game. In fact, it's probably de rigueur to make the variation. I accept the honour, and will of course make good on my vow/threat/duty.

My mea culpa to your wife's finger; I'd assumed the appearance was a result of foreshortening. ;) *Some* of it was, I think.

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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 07:13 PM
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25. HA!!!!!
"My nephew is of course Eugene, not Eugenie."

My mother goes by "Jeannie", pronounced "gee-nee". :)
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:45 AM
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6. CONGRATS, DNR!!!!
If you ever want to celebrate by shooting off some rounds at the local range just let me know...not that you will have the free time to do that anytime soon :)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:50 AM
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7. Newsflash: DoNotRefill's posting time to be cut in 1/2!!
Congrats, man! That is so sweet. Very pleased for you and Mrs!

:party: :bounce:
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Liberal Classic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:45 PM
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28. Not to nitpick
But likely more than half! Ha ha!

:party:
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DavidMS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:54 AM
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8. Congraduations!
n/t
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:21 AM
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10. She's a Darling-- Congratulations
Is she your first?
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 01:00 PM
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16. Yup Yup...
she's already developed some interesting character traits. She "eliminates" whenever I get near her, and holds it when I'm away. And her favorite place to sleep is laying on my chest.

:)
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 01:15 PM
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19. She "eliminates" whenever I get near her
Thats to funny.Theres a joke there some where.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 07:08 PM
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23. No joke...
I left the hospital at 8 am last night, and got back there around 6:30 this morning. She didn't go the entire time I was gone. I walk in, am still in the process of soundly kissing my wife, and the MIL hears the baby relieving herself. So, I grab a diaper and wipes, head over to Li'l Miss Stinkypants, prepare to change her (involving stripping off clothes, swaddling material, and diapers) get her diaper off, and BAM!!! as soon as I have the diaper off her, she cuts loose again, both ways. I get her cleaned up, and by the time the doctor comes by on rounds at 7:30, she's done it again. I may have to give her the temporary nickname "machinengescheisser".
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:56 AM
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11. Now that is one CUTE baby! And this coming from someone...
...that thinks all babies look like elves. :)
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:57 PM
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15. WoooooooHoooooooo!
Way to go, Daddy!
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 01:03 PM
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18. thanks, yall....
for all the kind wishes. :) Time to go change the diaper....
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 05:24 PM
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21. Congratulations...n/t
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 06:09 PM
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22. Congratulations! n/t
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 07:37 PM
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26. What a sweet heart!
Nobody could fault you for defending her, she is your child.
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hansberrym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:23 PM
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27. Congrats, She's a beauty. best wishes to your family (n/t)

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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:17 AM
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30. And I Have No Problem With That
What I DO have a problem with is people who should not have guns getting hold of them.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 12:19 PM
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32. Congratulations. (nt)
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:59 PM
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35. Cool!
Congragulations, a little "DoNotRefill". B-)

"even if it means going to jail for illegally possessing or using a gun to defend her with".

For a litle while anyways. I'm certain that with dads guidance and experiance, she'll grow up to be a bigger girl capable of defending herself.


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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:40 PM
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36. Speaking From Personal Goddamned Experience.......
....I hope you never have to defend your beautiful new daughter from anybody. It's something you never forget, and you never forgive.

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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 02:47 PM
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37. she's a beautiful child, DNR!
Congratulations to you and your wife!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
:party: :toast: :party:

:) :) :) :) :) :) :)


Mary
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minavasht Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:51 PM
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38. Congratulations!
I feel the same about my son.
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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 11:18 AM
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39. Hearty congratulations, but......
if it were me, I'd feel happier knowing that none of my neighbours had guns anywhere near her!

Different ends of the spectrum.

All the best to you and yours.

P.
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