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marano Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:12 PM
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How many on here have Military experience or are competent with arms?
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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:13 PM
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1. Why do you ask?
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humanbeing Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:15 PM
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3. well..
I shot rifles in the Boy Scouts. Does that count?
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marano Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:16 PM
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5. Don't ask...Just curious.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:57 AM
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33. I am curious why you can't answer the question w/o putting Dems down
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:21 PM
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13. Hey luaneryder you need this for your sig line...............
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 08:25 PM by Rebellious Republica


Just right click on the image, scroll down and click on properties, look about middle way down find address (URL) highlight the address, copy. You can save it by opening word and saving it there. When ever you want to use it on DU, just open the file and you can copy and paste as often as you want. There may be an easier way than saving it to word. I am not real computer savvy, but it works for me.
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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:36 PM
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20. Thanks RR!!
I'm trying to figure out how to do it right now. I'm using Mozilla so it seems a little different. I have one exactly like it on my car and yard sign, too!:hi:
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:59 PM
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23. I have one on my Ford F150 and a yard sign as well.
I think that it really pisses the freeps off seeing a southern white middle aged male veteran driving a Toby Keith recommended Ford F150 with a Veteran for Kerry sticker driving around down here in Florida. So much for stereo types, bwahahaha. Good luck with image, I know nothing about Mozilla, maybe some of the other computer gurus around here can help ya.



:toast:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:15 PM
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2. How about you go first
Go ahead, now...don't be shy.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:16 PM
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4. I am very competent with my arms and even hands, I can draw, throw,
and carry stuff....
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marano Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:16 PM
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6. Cute, you know what I mean.
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marano Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:18 PM
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9. we are always labled pansies by the right....just curious if anyone else .
is like me...capable of military action if called upon.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:21 PM
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12. Are "we" ?
Airborne Ranger
CIB
Two combat tours

What's the purpose of your question?


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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:51 AM
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30. Marano obviously thinks we are pansies -- nuf said.
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 06:51 AM by gatlingforme
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:52 AM
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31. You are full of it!
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 06:55 AM by gatlingforme
What is your point to insinuating this crap? SHOW ME YOUR POINT other than giving yourself the opportunity to tell everybody here that you think Dems are pansies....
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:53 AM
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32. I think you are a real cutie!! No we honestly don't know what you mean
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:17 PM
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7. i am competent with guns, daddy started me with .22's when i was
6 and i target shot with both rifles and pistols until about 10 years ago. I remember helping Grampa make slugs in the basement (something fascinating about molten lead when you are 8 years old)

Hubby is an ex MP for the Army

why do you ask?

just an FYI we don't own a gun, nor have any plans to buy one (we have 3 dogs instead for home protection)
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:18 PM
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8. Yes why do yo ask?
But to answer you. Yes I know how to shoot a glock19 and shotgun.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:19 PM
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10. Military and hunting license/gun safety course
I was raised in Upstate NY, went Deer and squirrel hunting :)
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:20 PM
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11. 155 Howitzer Count?
Wonderful toys, self-propelled howitzers.


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marano Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:22 PM
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14. Beautiful
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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:24 PM
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17. M60 machine gun, LAW antitank
M16, 357, 38, 22. I had the most fun with the LAW; I couldn't miss!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:45 PM
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22. You and my Bro. 'Nuff said. eom
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:23 PM
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15. Yes.
To both.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:24 PM
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16. Used to be quite a marksman...
Rusty now, though.

And lately I haven't fired anything but black powder weapons...
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:34 PM
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18. Bullys or assassins
I've been trained my whole life to use nuclear weapons to kill
at least 1 billion people. I thank the USA military and its civilian
adjuncts for excellent training in merciless thinking.

I presume you mean small arms, for the old fashioned warriors...

hmmm... well, i can kill with a samurai sword adeptly, and a bow
and arrow. Both of these i keep round the house and practice
with regularly in case of necessity... kives and close up killing
is my favorite having spent decades in martial arts disciplines.

.. but what are you asking... Do we know how to be big dick murderers?

The only difference really, is that cherry's have a tendency to
"hesitate" when the offering of using nukes to kill 500,000,000
people. I, however, have been trained excellently to kill first
and then ask about the results.

don't worry, Us democrats can murder more people than a bunch of
amateur republican faux-chicken hawks any day.

In all honestly, i've learned enough about killing to realize that
i can kill anyone that i need to. In that knowledge, i've discovered
that i don't want to... that i have grown to respect life, and that
it is the easy way out to mass murder your enemy... but much harder
to meet him nose to nose and come to terms. As well, i understand
that the real wars are won without a fight, as the battle is won
before it is fought... and i am a guilty party in the USA attacks on
South Korea, Mexico and Russia, where we used currency collapse as
a proxy for military force, and sent in our white collar educated
neoliberal financial assholes. :-)

I find all these rambo killer bullshitters to be a bit tiresome.

If they're so hot at defending the constitution, then why are the
executives of sinclair still alive? Why is nader still living?
cowards... That is my estimation of the war class in america.

American militarists are really cowards hiding under their beds,
and the whole repulbican gentry falls in to that class.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:17 PM
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25. watashi wa Sanza
*draws katana*
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:34 PM
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19. I watched John Lennon in the movie
"How I Won the War."
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:42 PM
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21. I like to shoot at agendas using a keyboard....
but I did learn to use firearms as a kid. Maybe there is a reason....
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:15 PM
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24. Yep
AR-15/M-16 series, Kalashnikov, Simonov/SKS, Colt 1911, revolvers, shotguns, and the M-60 light machine gun.
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:01 AM
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26. Yep
I was an Army MP. Trained on everything from a 50cal down.

I agree with sweetheart on this one though, and could not have said it better.

In all honestly, i've learned enough about killing to realize that
i can kill anyone that i need to. In that knowledge, i've discovered
that i don't want to... that i have grown to respect life, and that
it is the easy way out to mass murder your enemy... but much harder
to meet him nose to nose and come to terms. As well, i understand
that the real wars are won without a fight, as the battle is won
before it is fought...

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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:12 AM
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27. Former G.I. and Gunsite grad here. 'nuff said
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:19 AM
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28. Former Marine
Thus, I'm pretty good at breaking things (and putting them back together for that matter).
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:33 AM
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38. Former Marine?
That explains much. :evilgrin:
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:49 AM
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29. What is your point in asking such a loaded and presupposing question
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WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:11 AM
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34. I've been shooting since I was 5
I've shot most types of civilian arms out there, except blackpowder, for years. I shot IPSC for three years, IDPA for one. If I ever get the time to shoot competitions again, I will. If I get a LOT of time on my hands, I'll shoot CMP as well.

Sadly I have very little experience on rifles with a happy switch. I've shot a mag through other people's full auto here and there, but they are simply too expensive for me to get in to at the moment.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:12 AM
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35. Ex-Marine I qualified as expert at the range
I had done a lot of shooting before going to boot camp but the two weeks we spent shooting really refined my shooting.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:41 AM
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36. I feel competent with handguns and rifles...
I am learning shotguns now.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:54 AM
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37. I'm competent with arms
:toast:
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:35 AM
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39. You should be.
I hear that squids have 14 of 'em. :silly:
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:06 AM
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40. 6 years Air Force
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 11:08 AM by lunabush
Marksmen medal. Don't mean shit. I am a pacifist at heart.



And, I am tempted to lock this thread - I see no evidence this was started with any positive intent.


edit - changed my mind.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:06 PM
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43. "Marksman"?.... "Airforce"?...
LOL! :P

I (we) used to shoot/blast you guys out of the sky (see my other post).

One funny anecdote: there was one time we actually had some field exercise. It was out in some far away region of Ft. Bragg where we were simulating engaging attacking aircraft. There was an Airforce close air support controller present to direct the aircraft (which happened to be Air National Guard F-100 Super Sabres). One thing I distinctly remember him cautioning/warning us about was not to throw rocks at the aircraft as they attacked our positions. He was serious and understandably so; a stone or rock sucked into the jet intake would have been disastrous.

Then there was time we came this close --->.<--- to blowing a UH-1 out of the sky with an atomic bomb simulator. That one was pretty scary.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:41 PM
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44. HA ha HA
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 08:42 PM by lunabush
So, you think throwing rocks at AF jets while in the Army makes you qualified to man an AK-47 in real life?

Hell, even if it was the AF at least they let us use the "real" bullet, eh, sherrif Andy? :)
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:43 PM
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45. Rocks, schmocks!
We had the ability to take down anything the "Chairborne Rangers" could throw at us. :P

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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:18 PM
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46. All right, Bucko, that is over the top!
:grr:

:realmad:
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:55 PM
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47. Try parachuting into a bunch of trees sometimes.
You think being a mod is tough. :-)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:28 AM
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48. Again, should've been AF, we use line -release systems so we can steer
Keeps us out of the trees. Hell, even the Navy is smart enough to use those. Guess there is a reason why they call ya "ground-pounders" :)

Seriously, tell me about the tree thing, sounds most unpleasant.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 08:20 PM
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56. "Unpleasant"?
At first it was "Oh, FUCK!!!". Later it was "Air-FUCKING-Born!" (82'nds version of the Marines "Hoo-Rah!").

The time I got hung up (almost), was during a night jump at Ft. Bragg.

There were about 200 guys in the air at the time jumping from C-130s @ 1,200".

After I went out the door and checked that I had a canopy above me, I looked down and could clearly see the drop zone. Only problem was I was way off from the center of the DZ and was drifting towards the tree line which was pitch black. I tried to steer my chute in the direction of the DZ, but wasn't having much luck. I could also see that a bunch of other jumpers below me were already well above the trees and descending.

The scariest part was the few seconds before hitting the trees. In training we were taught to bring up our arms to cover our face for protection against branches.

Fortunately, where I landed was mostly scraggly looking scrub pine trees and most of the gear I had on protected me (still stung like hell though). At the time I was more concerned about catching a thick branch in the family jewels.

The tree I landed in was only about 16"-18" high so after I broke through I was on the ground, but my chute was all tangled up in the pine.

From what I heard afterwards about 3/4s of the guys went into the woods and about a dozen had sustained injuries ranging from broken arms to sprained ankles to deep lacerations.

It probably took the clean-up detail several days to get all the chutes out of the trees.


Helpful hint if you ever parachute out of an airplane at night and get hung up in a tall tree (at least this is what we were taught):

Take your helmet off and drop it so you can tell how far you're off the ground. Deploy your reserve chute on the front of your harness. Carefully undo the harness and climb down the reserve to good Ol Mother Earth. Face the sky and loudly curse the Air Force. :P

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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:54 PM
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41. I dont' think there are too many weapons in the US Army
inventory that I haven't had experience with.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 07:39 PM
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42. 4 years 82nd Airborne.
1974-1978. Back then there wasn't a whole lot of emphasis on training; maintenance day... every day. I spent a lot of time in the arms room.

I was also on the battalion pistol team for a few months. Got my ass kicked when I tried out for division level.

Qualified on the TOW anti-tank missile and Redeye shoulder fired anti-aircraft missile systems (predecessor to the Stinger). I had dual MOS'. My primary was 11B (infantry), but I was attached to an anti-aircraft unit (16R). Our "compatriots" were Vulcan gunners (basically a 20mm gatling gun). The motor pool was located about a mile from and directly in line with the Pope Airforce base runway. Every now and then the Vulcaneers would let us "grunts" play with their toys and give us a chance to "engage" the various aircraft taking off the runway.

Overall, about 30 years firearms experience.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 10:18 AM
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49. "military experience" ... Canadian Airborne
Three months in the summer of '77, sharing the air with them in local bars. (On Friday afternoon, one tried to guess which bars they'd be in that weekend, based on which bars they'd trashed the weekend before and so were unlikely to return to immediately, and went somewhere else.)

If they'd just disbanded the assholes right then and there, there'd have been a few fewer assaults and sexual assaults in that area over the next few years, and at least one teenager in Somalia never tortured to death by their successors. It took the latter event for them to actually get disbanded.

As for competence with arms, I'll just echo those who've gone before, and of course point out that the pen is mightier than the sword.

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MacDo Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 10:51 AM
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50. Expert Marksman. Why?
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LibLabUK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:06 AM
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51. Military experience - Yugoslavian Army.
I was detained, along with my father, brother and 45 other people, for several hours on suspicion of spying. Quite a scary thing for a 10 year old to go through... although I have to say the soldiers treated us well.

In the UK, I've had an armed policeman point an MP5 at me at a checkpoint on Blackfriars Bridge. It was just after a series of IRA bombs, must be about 7-10 years ago and myself and some colleagues were in a white transit van laden with scaffolding towers and cleaning equipment all covered by white dust sheets.

The bobby-in-charge saw the partially covered pipes through the back window and decided that he needed a closer look.

His mate with the H&K MP5 persuaded us to keep our hands in plain sight.

Once they saw what it was, everything was okay... they were just doing their job.

And finally, I used to shoot .22 pistol and rifle at a nice club in Tooting.. it was above a church of all things and was very Heath Robinson. Closed down now, they couldn't afford the rent on the space.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:34 AM
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52. 3 yrs US ARMY
21yrs Sheriffs dept
life time of hunting.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:15 PM
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53. I can do 50 push ups
How about them arms!
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:18 PM
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54. Hello??? you start a thread, tell people to not ask why, then leave.??????
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streakr Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:12 PM
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55. Yes and ...
How about Cowboy Action Shooters for Kerry?

streakr
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