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Dolomite Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:32 PM
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Guns in the (Russian) news: 19OCT2004

"After the recent terrorist act in Beslan, Russians began purchasing legal means of self-defense."

http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/361/14240_Firearms.html

"One can acquire special permit at a licensing department of Moscow"s department of internal affairs. Their offices are located in every district of the city. A person just needs to prove that he/she is in good mental health, demonstrate his ability to load/unload a gun and the person will be free to head to the local gun store in a few weeks. According to some knowledgeable residents, it is possible to finish the entire procedure in a day or two if one has extra $150-200 USD to spare."
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anonymous44 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:10 PM
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1. good for them
it seems that they realize the value of a gun
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:39 PM
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2. 'bout time.
The "good old days" are disapperaing in Russia. Halleujah!
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:43 PM
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3. I cant say I blame them...
if the government is unable or unwilling to protect you, you have every right to provide for your own defense.
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12ss1kp Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:58 AM
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4. .
Violence begets violence.
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:17 AM
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5. live by the gun, die by the gun...
terrorists live by the gun so they should die by the gun aswell
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 10:20 AM
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7. That's the point.
The criminal begins the violence and the well-armed, responsible citizen ends it.
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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:58 AM
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6. Fair play to the Russians...they have more restrictions than the US...
I might be wrong, but generally speaking isn't this stricter regulation than the US? You actually have to prove you can load/unload a gun before you can buy one? GAAAAAA! The horror! Holy infringement of personal rights, Batman!

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anonymous44 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:38 PM
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9. I may be wrong
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 05:50 PM by ownt
I heard that they do have to demonstrate how to handle the weapon and a form from psychiatrist, saying that they are not mentally retarded. I think that's basically all that is different than here in USA. However, I am also positive that they can own fully-automatics as well. I don't believe that they have bans on specific weapons. And since Beslan, some of the laws were loosened up (especially handguns, which are very hard to get). Handguns are harder to get in Russia than full-autos. I can look for the Russian gun laws, but I don't how many of you know Russian. Maybe you can put it in some of those online translators. I'll look them up.

I found some laws. I believe that these are pretty current. Not really sure though.


http://www.pravozashita.ru/law/rules/
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Blade42 Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:08 PM
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8. WOW I "need" one of those
that would be a Stechklin APS machinepistol they are holding. If Russian civies can own machinepistols sign me up!!!

I'm here,I'm queer.....and I can shoot 750 gaybasher a minute..LOL
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MacDo Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:56 PM
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10. I'll take two. n/t
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