Gun crime figures show fresh rise (UK)

[Pert_UK]

Except, of course, that they don't really:

"The number of firearms offences in England and Wales has risen in the last year, according to Home Office figures released on Thursday.
There has been a 3% climb in gun crime, following a 2% rise the previous year, the figures show."

But I thought that they'd banned handguns in the UK? Ha, look, guncrime is still going up!.........

Except:

"The statistics also show a 35% rise in crimes involving imitation weapons." - so we're including fake guns in this category.

"the figures, which cover the 12 months to June this year, also show a 15% drop in the number of shooting-related deaths. "

"GUN CRIME: YEAR TO JUNE 04
Fatalities: 70 (-15%)
Serious injuries: 430 (no change)
Total firearms offences: 10,590 (+3%)
With replica/ imitation gun: 1,350 (+35%)
With handgun: 4,910 (-10%)
Source: Home Office recorded crime figures. Comparisons are with year to June 03 "

"The government was keen to stress that the risk of being a victim of violent crime is at its lowest for nearly 25 years. "

Hmmmm.....I wonder what would happen to these figures if the general public had access to handguns?...Better or worse.....better or worse.....better or worse.........

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3761626.stm

[iverglas]

1. enjoying your whistling?

Maybe it was too complicated. Simplified:


2004 (to June) compared to 2003 (to June):

firearm fatalities: down 15%
crimes in which handguns used: down 10%


I, for one, will be eagerly awaiting Gary Kleck's undoubtedly more expert interpretation, undoubtedly proving that gun crime in the UK has doubled once again.

[BigDaddyCaine]

2. These figures dont show me

How banning guns is going to make the gun crime drop. I dont see much of a drop and any drop i do see is probably still higher than before the UK ban.

So why would a ban like the UK help the US? Or is that not what you are implying? Sorry if i am wrong, im new here.

[iverglas]

3. for somebody new here

... you go off on some silly tangents, don't you?

"These figures dont show me
How banning guns is going to make the gun crime drop."

And did they show you how to make a cherry pie?

"So why would a ban like the UK help the US? Or is that not what you are implying?"

Of all the assumptions you could have made, what prompted that one?


Perhaps you've actually managed to miss the many and varied assertions about how banning guns makes crime rates rise ...