Has the Chimp been photographed with a gun?

[Sparkly]

Is he a hunter? Just curious, figured I'd ask here.

[Nikepallas]

1. Very good question! It is something to think about.

I don't think I have ever seen him with a gun Yet when Kerry was shown with a gun the NRA blast Kerry for trying "Give off the illusion" that he is a hunter but would really take away all guns.

[fairfaxvadem]

2. I've wondered that too!

We know he doesn't ride horses, but all of those photo ops in Crawford, etc, I've never seen GWB with a gun. Fishing rod, yes. Rifle, no.

I would very much like to know if he has ever been seen with a gun.

Good Question Sparkly!

[BillZBubb]

3. Yes, several times.

In fact, when the moron ran for Governor of Texas he was photographed shooting a protected bird. That got him an additional 10% of the Texas male vote.

[Sparkly]

5. So does he hunt regularly?

(Maybe "regularly" is the wrong word in his case -- he's pretty irregular all the way around.) Has he been hunting as preznit, or had photo-ops?

[BillZBubb]

6. He's a photo-op only hunter.

I don't recall him doing any hunting as pResident. He's as much of a hunter as he is a Christian.

[Sparkly]

7. It occurred to me when Time wrote he "stuck to his guns, literally."

Why "literally?" He wasn't the one shooting and risking his life, yet they love that image of him. (He "goes after terrorists!" He "fights!" He "stands up to 'em!" He "sticks to his guns!") Just wondered if there was any basis in fact or photo.

Thanks for the info.

[TwentyFive]

10. I heard he was hunting for a bag of pretzels.

[Ready4Change]

4. Good Lord!

Let that man carry a gun? He'd be waving it around like a squirt pistol, I guarantee it. The super confident, cowboy wannabe type is one of the last people in the world I'd trust with a gun.

[Lefty48197]

8. Here's a few pix of the chimp toting a gun:

I searched for these when the right wing nuts in the NRA were skewering Kerry (in their own little way) during the campaign because he actually dared to shoot a gun without the proper ear and eye protection. Every right wing pro-gun website, and every one of their slimy worshipers pontificated on the very subject: "I wear eye goggles, and ear protection EVERY SINGLE TIME I SHOOT A GUN. If Kerry can't do that, then he's obviously too irresponsible to be President".







Just for good measure, here's one of the old man:

[Wickerman]

12. "Every right wing pro-gun website"

And even the DU Gun forum had a similar flamefest. :eyes:

[slackmaster]

9. "Chimps with guns" is a movie genre

What was that one with Burt Reynolds?

[Lefty48197]

15. I think it was Heston that was in the chimp movie

iirc

[slackmaster]

24. You're thinking of Planet of the Apes

[man4allcats]

11. I don't know whether Dubya has a handgun

(Good God! Let's hope not! That idiot with a handgun?!), but I'm pretty sure he keeps that middle finger loaded < http://www.viralmeister.com/movies/bushuncensored.mov >. :-)

[Wickerman]

13. GWB has never been convicted of a disqualifing crime

so he could legally be a CCWer.

That is what scares the shit out of me about concealed carry - guys like Bush* can legally carry..

[RoeBear]

18. Let's see now...

...W has his hand on the nuclear button and you're worried about him carrying a pistol?

[Wickerman]

21. Nice try

but the key part of the sentence was guys like

You know the type, ticking timebombs not yet found guilty of crimes. The ones were everyone later says, "How the hell was he ever allowed near a weapon?".

That is what scares the shit out of me about concealed carry - guys like Bush* can legally carry..

Unlike a numbers of posters in this forum, I believe its quite clear that I am also not pleased that Bush* has his hand on the big red button.

[Lefty48197]

16. He said he has Saddam's personal pistol. I think he violates DC's gun laws

I think only highly trained individuals or qualified law enforcement personnel are allowed to posess handguns in the District of Columbia. Since GWB admitted posessing Saddam's pistol, I think he's eligible for jail time.

[man4allcats]

17. I love it!

I will be happy to contact the DC police department and ask them to check into it. Nothing short of impeachment and conviction would make me happier than to see the little bastard arrested and carted off to jail - not that I think that would ever happen of course, but you have to admit it's an intriguing idea!

[slackmaster]

19. Technically he is an active member of the military

i.e. Commander in Chief; and military people are exempt from DC's gun laws.

[Lefty48197]

27. I thought the Commander in Chief was a civilian?

.

[Romulus]

20. "highly trained individuals or qualified law enforcement personnel "

like the bank guards :eyes: , armored car guards :eyes: , and anyone else who can get Chief Ramsey to sign off on their permit application :eyes: .

But run of the mill USMC expert-pistol-qualified nobodies need not apply . . .

[Billy Ruffian]

22. It's worse than that

there are a non-insignificant number of police officers that only go through their periodic pistol qualification.

Meaning no slight against your USMC training (and I know a little of what you've done, having had the benefit of USMC DIs on staff when I was in NROTC), there are many civilian, non-military trained, gun owners will go through more ammo in a week than some of these police officers will used in a year.

[TX-RAT]

23. What is that suppose to mean?

(there are many civilian, non-military trained, gun owners will go through more ammo in a week than some of these police officers will used in a year.)
I know some individuals that aren't qualified to pour piss out of a boot, that go through that many rounds in a week. Is that how we judge peoples qualifications these days, by how many rounds they shoot a week.

[Billy Ruffian]

25. Geez, sorry I didn't write a novel to explain in detail.

what I mean to say is that there are civilians that are better (in any aspect you care to consider) with a firearm that many policemen, and that they have taken the time to educate themselves in the use of lethal force.

I know you don't care for concealed carry permits. I disagree, and I'm glad to live in a state that has concealed carry permits.

[TX-RAT]

26. Civilians that are better with a firearm than policemen?

That means nothing, Charles Whitman was excellent with firearms. Lets see, he left 16 dead and 31 wounded.

(they have taken the time to educate themselves in the use of lethal force. )
And just how do they do that? A 4 day vacation at Thunder Ranch with a nice Barbecue after? A 2 day course in concealed carry? A qualifying round my Grandmother could pass?
Interestingly enough, i asked 2 of the local CCW instructors if anybody has ever failed the shooting course, answer was none.

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[aikoaiko]

14. truth be told, even right wingers are afraid of repubs grabbing guns

As a gun lover,I get the opportunity to shoot the breeze with a lot of RW gun lovers, and talking to them about Shrub, Bush, and Reagan reveals anxiety about their men too.

Bush the younger: Promised to sign the renewal of the AWB if it came to his desk. Lots of people figured it was political rhetoric, but even RWers also feared he actually would sign it if it got to his desk.

Bush the elder: tried to ban the importation of foreign made fireams, but allowed them in if a requisite number of US parts were included. Now many of the guns people buy as UZIs, AKs, HK g3/91 are built with used parts on inferior receivers.

Reagan: the worst of them all. In 1986, he banned the purchasing of new machine guns. Now a $1000 M16, costs of citizen around 10k-15k because of a small and finite supply of old ones. I think some regulations on ammunition were lightened up in some kind of quid pro quo, but still. Reagan took away a who class of firearms that would be most useful.

Ironically, Clinton's 1994 AWB was the weakest, least intrusive, gun control law. Almost gun friendly in comparison. Of course, the 1994 cost democratc dearly in the following senate and house elections.

Pictures, I don't care about pictures, its the veto power that counts.