Police: Woman Opens Fire After Intruder Shoots Nephew

[left15]

http://www.click2houston.com/news/4035238/detail.html

"Investigators said when Leverette told them they had the wrong house, the men fired a bullet at her 16-year-old nephew, who was sleeping on the couch.

Leverette told police she then opened fire on the men as they escaped"

"Officials said there is a possibility that the intruders invaded the wrong home because Leverette moved into the home two weeks ago."

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Here's somebody who was targeted by mistake. Who had no reason to expect an attack, yet they were prepared, and no one died, because they had a firearm.

[RC]

1. No one died because the nephew was shot in the arm and

not the head or the heart.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

4. when was the last time the police saved you from anything?

by the time the police respond it's all over except the crying. we pay taxes to employ police to harass us, not defend us, and you had better be able to defend yourself, if you have never had to defend yourself, you have only been lucky, so far.

[RC]

9. I must pick a better class of friends than some people.

I have never had a problem. And the neighborhood I live in is safe even though is is full of blacks, Hispanics and foreigners of various colors. Even after dark.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

15. well, that's pretty snotty, but without justification, nice people are

victims of crimes too. i guess you have just been lucky, but you pat yourself on the back, thinking you are just too nice to be the victim of a crime? lol. that's laughable!

[cornermouse]

2. Silly, old, and tired argument.

How many times have you had a stranger in your house shooting at you?

[left15]

5. I've never had a fire, but I still have smoke alarms.

[cornermouse]

8. More silly arguments.

You do realize that you're far more likely to shoot yourself accidentally, don't you?

The fact is, some people should never be allowed to have a gun. When you listen to them talk you realize that they tend to think of it as a toy, an amusement, rather than the weapon that it is. Unfortunately these people are the ones who are usually loudest and quickest with the "intruder in the house" and a myriad of other similarly foolish arguments.

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[aikoaiko]

26. Defending oneself with a gun doesn't always mean shooting it

While its true that accidents are more likely to happen than self-defense shootings, I think it is also true that most use of guns defensively don't involve shootings. Some people just show that they are packing, some unholster the weapon and point it away/down, and some draw on a person in order to prevent a bad guy or suspected bad guy from harming them. This is hard to know for sure because most people don't report having scared away a bad guy by displaying their weapon (and it may be illegal in some states; brandishing) and many times it involves ambiguous situations where something is averted before it gets started or the suspected bad guy was not actually a bad guy.

An imperfect analogy:
Most police will never need to shoot a bad guy, but most will need to draw their weapon or have their hand on it to keep the situation in their control. I've been in those situations myself and I'm glad my firearms were there in case I needed it.

ps. I think in some states you are allowed to defend property with lethal force, but someone else will have to verify it. Texas?

[cornermouse]

30. "Packing?"

"Unholster and point?"

"Draw?"

Do you practice your fast draw? And do you also spin the gun via trigger guard around your finger? I'm biting my tongue here...

[aikoaiko]

34. excuse my colloquialisms, but it was a serious reply....

... to your post.

[cornermouse]

35. I'm sorry.

I wasn't really trying to offend. I was raised differently with some pretty strict rules about guns. We were allowed to shoot rifles and shotguns at a much older age than is common now and safety was the absolute top concern.

[alwynsw]

33. Silly?

Say that after you've dealt with an armed intruder. Been there. Done that.

[alwynsw]

32. Once, for me.

Some folks here know the end result. Let's just say that I'm alive and posting.

[rooboy]

3. Yep, if everyone had a gun there'd be less deaths...

like in the United States.

[left15]

6. People in the US are buying guns BECAUSE of the crime

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[Historic NY]

10. Obviously your not looking at crime stats are you.....

Violent crime is down to new lows before 1960. Property crime does not warrant the use of deadly force.

[left15]

11. I agree, what's your address?

[Dufaeth]

12. LOL!

eom

[Historic NY]

14. left15 a little light reading for you, just check the UCR's.........

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm#cius

[ontheMark]

13. Two weeks ago

I woke up at 5 in the morning because my dogs were barking. I went outside and found a large dog attacking my livestock. It came running toward me and I pulled my 22 pistol out of my pocket and shot the animal. Did my gun save me from death or great injury? I think so. I am not a supporter of the NRA, I don't think owning an assault weapon or a 50 cal. sniper rifle makes sense. I've taken safety classes and practice shooting. I take gun ownership as a serious responsibility.

[cornermouse]

22. What type of livestock?

Chickens? Pigs? Cows?

Just call it curiosity.

[cornermouse]

24. A 22 pistol? In your pocket, no less?

A rifle or shotgun would make better sense in that situation.

[ontheMark]

28. Horses

were cornered in the corral by a large Rot type feral looking dog.
Yes a rifle or shotgun would have worked. However, I keep my Walther P22 in my pocket while in the barn yard or walking around in my woods. It's easier than carrying a long gun and is always handy if I need it.
Gun laws and rights seem to be one of those gray areas. It is different out here in the country. Just like laws regulating livestock are different for cities than in rural areas.

[cornermouse]

31. Yep.

I'd have take a rifle or shotgun myself, but that's because I think they're a little more accurate than a pistol.

[MSgt213]

16. Can we just fucking stop looking at everything in black and white!!!

Allowing everyone with no thought to have a gun in their house is just as ridiculous as thinking the police can protect you at all times from just about any type of crime. Thinking that a gun will save you or deter crime or violence is just as ridiculous as thinking neighborhood watches will do the same. Thinking that every tragedy occurs because we allow people to have guns is just as ridiculous as thinking as no tragedy's will occur because no one has a gun. If you want black and white the how about we try this. If you don't want or care to have a gun in your house for personal protection then don't have one and accept responsibility for what happens hence forth don't blame the police or anyone else. If you want to have a gun in your house for protection then just be prepared to accept responsibility for what happens if something goes wrong. Just stand up and say I didn't know where my fucking gun was.

One size doesn't fit all no matter how hard we try to force it. There are idiots our there who shouldn't be allowed operate a fucking tricycle. But there are just as many if not more people who have enough fucking sense and respect of firearms to know you never point a weapon unless you intend to shoot.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

18. EVERYONE is not allowed to own a gun

only those over 18 with no criminal or psychiatric record. who said everyone?

[MSgt213]

19. You're right saying everyone is just as ridiculous as saying because I

have a criminal or psychiatric record I don't have a right to protect myself from home invasion like those who don't.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

20. well, no, you don't have the right if your criminal or psychotic

because then you might be criminal with your weapons or be mistaken in thinking you have to defend yourself and shoot the Avon Lady. Isn't that obvious?

[MSgt213]

21. Isn't what obvious? Are you saying that all criminals and all psychotics

have been caught and diagnosed? There are no more out there? Because if that's your standard then why should we even need a gun in the first place? From what your saying I gather if you were on a jury and a former criminal or psychotic was on trial for shooting another criminal or psychotic posing as an Avon lady you would vote for conviction.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

37. you seem very aggressive, and seem to want a fight, but this is

the wrong tree for you to bark up. What I said, if you will stop misquoting me, is that not EVERYONE can buy guns legally, only those who are not felons and are not psychotic. You asked a really stupid question when you asked why felons and psychotics can't buy guns, but nonetheless, I answered your stupid question cordially. Now, exactly which dumb thing are you ragging on? Go away and argue with yourself, I really don't care what you think about anything. Thanks.

[comradebillyboy]

23. i have the right to defend myself and my home

whether you fucking like it or not.

my home has been broken into twice even though i live in a nice area. i am a citizen who will defend his rights and his life with force if necessary, not a subject who cowers in fear hoping the cops will intervene.

if you don't like guns, thats ok by me, but do not try to keep me from protecting myself.

if you do own a gun, do take the time to learn how to use it properly and safely. the nra offers excellent gun safety courses. if you have a gun and do not know how to use it safely and properly, you are a menace to society.

by the way, i recently bought a springfield armory xd-40 pistol. i have put about 100 rounds through it. it is an excellent gun, accurate, simple, reliable and a pleasure to shoot. i keep a makarov 9mm in my glove box in my car. here in new mexico, most people own guns and lots carry guns in their cars.

[cornermouse]

25. Then you shouldn't mind going to jail if or when you shoot

someone.

[slackmaster]

27. You're absolutely right about that - Couldn't agree more

Many people have gone to jail for shooting someone, even when shooting was the morally right thing to do.

The instructors under whom I have studied the use of deadly force are of one mind on this: If something is not worth dying for, it's not worth shooting (or stabbing, etc.) someone for.

[cornermouse]

29. True. Very true.

For me that's kids only and only as a last resort.

[skippythwndrdog]

36. "kids only" why not yourself? Do you not care too much about yourself?

Is a criminal more important than you are?

[slackmaster]

39. That's the beauty of individuals making their own choices, skip

Personally I'd shoot someone (and be willing to go to jail) to save my own life, but I support the right of other people to place the highest value on whatever they choose.

I'm divorced and an empty nester now, but I would have been willing to die or go to prison to save my family when they were around. Thankfully nothing even close to requiring that decision ever happened.

[skippythwndrdog]

40. Yes, the choice is wonderful,

but I can't conceive of being a pacifist when under criminal attack. It is a whole different mindset that I can't wrap my own mind around.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

38. sounds like a nice piece, congrats on your aquisition, n/t