Talking Points Aside, Bush Stance on Palestinian State Is Not a First

[barb162]

gaffe of the week by Ms. Hughes?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/04/AR2005100401410_pf.html

[mattclearing]

1. I don't know. It's only Wednesday. Get back to me on Friday. n/t

[Andromeda]

2. Karen lies out of her most ample...

orifice. She'll say and do anything to prop up the boy king and anything she says should be taken with a grain of salt.

[barb162]

5. She's getting her rear end "whupped" by the Saudi and Turkish

women so far. There are some things, though, which I don't believe that the Saudi women were saying, that stuff about how they didn't mind not being able to drive, not having as many rights as the men, etc.

[Englander]

3. They're only words.

When Hughes or others say something, the words they use
are just a sound, they have no meaning, they mean nothing.

From "Chain of Command", by Sy Hersh;

"We have a President who spent months terrorizing the nation
with dire warnings about mushroom clouds emanating from Saddam
Hussein's arsenal and then could say, as did in a campaign speech
in August of 2004, that it didn't matter. "We may still find weapons,"
Bush said."We haven't found them yet....Let me just say this to
you: knowing what I know today, we still would have gone into
Iraq.".......
There are many who believe George Bush is a liar,a President who
knowingly and deliberately twists facts for political gain. But lying
would indicate an understanding of what is desired, what is possible,
and how best to get there. A more plausible explanation is that
words have no meaning for this President beyond the immediate
moment, and so he believes that his mere utterance of the phrases
makes them real. It is a terrifying possibility."

[barb162]

6. I think Hughes , Bush etal sometimes mean what they say

which of course doesn't make them right about anything.

[Colorado Blue]

4. Oy.

[barb162]

7. Condi will have to either dump her or keep her on a short leash