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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:00 PM
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Franklin: I gave Israel secret material
Oct. 6, 2005 0:10 | Updated Oct. 6, 2005 0:26
Franklin: I gave Israel secret material
By NATHAN GUTTMAN
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia


Former Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin admitted in court Wednesday he passed classified information to Israeli diplomat Naor Gilon and to two former AIPAC officials, Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman.

Franklin agreed in court to testify against the two AIPAC officials and to prove that he had indeed passed classified information on to them, and had told them clearly this information was classified.

This was the first time that Israel was explicitly mentioned in the courtroom and that Gilon's name was disclosed. When asked by Judge T.S. Ellis whether he communicated classified information to a foreign official, Franklin replied: "I met occasionally with Naor Gilon from the Israeli embassy."

Adding that he had "assumed the Israeli government has already possessed" the information that Franklin gave Gilon, Franklin told the court that his impression was that Gilon gave him more information than he, Franklin, gave the Israeli official.

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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1128478900053


WHY ISN'T MSM REPORTING THIS?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:02 PM
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:04 PM
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2. Trials not starting till January
There's time for Feith's name to come up
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:17 PM
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5. What a stupid assertion!
Besides, if Sharon were so all-powerful, shouldn't he been able to stop a press release in an right-leaning Israeli newspaper? Or is it just the American media that Sharon controls? :eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:04 PM
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:13 PM
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4. There's an AP story that's been on the ABC and NBC websites for an hour
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1186788

It doesn't name Gilon - it just calls him "a political officla at the Israeli embassy".
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:18 PM
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6. Well that's really great reporting then isn't it? n/t
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:27 PM
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7. Naor Gilon. Gee, where have I heard that name before?
;-)

Thanks seemslikeadream! You were on top of this a long time ago.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:41 PM
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12. Yes, faster than the Jerusalem Post
but I suppose AP do have the advantage of being in the same country as the court.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:33 PM
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13. Then why couldn't they print the WHOLE story
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:28 PM
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8. Read it as "Franken" [n/t]
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:29 PM
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9. regarding this statement....
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 06:01 PM by stillcool47
<When asked to characterize his contact with Rosen and Weissman, Franklin said that he talked to them about his "frustration with a particular policy" and said that he had hoped that the two AIPAC officials would convey his views to senior officials in the National Security Council with whom they had good ties. "I asked them to use this information and to get it back channeled to the NSC," he said. >

tell me if i get this. He leaked info to these guys so that they would bring it up with his bosses?
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:01 PM
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10. You don't know how much stuff
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 06:04 PM by Coastie for Truth
is leaked by underlings to outside pressure groups to "throw back at" or "lobby" their bosses. OSHA, NIOSH, FDA, EPA are the leakiest --- and the environmental/consumer and the industry groups share and share alike in this largesse.

A lot comes out of the people who work for the US Trade Representative and the Department of Commerce.

You really think all of the conversation on "K Street" and in the bars and bistros of Georgetown (and in my days, O'Donnell's on Pennsylvania Avenue) is about sports or sex?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:03 PM
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11. thanks....makes so much more sense....
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:36 PM
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14. hmmm... this sure looks likes LBN to me...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:13 PM
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15. all these stories were
Analyst Charged With Passing Iran Info: Franklin Turned Self InTo FBI
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1444053
Fieth resigns from Pentagon today
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1186412
Former CIA official looks to leak the truth
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=886884
New Israeli spy probe has a 30-year history, insiders say
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=852863
Israel's Mole Inside the Pentagon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=783161
FBI probes Jewish sway on Bush government
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=802725
Money from Iran Fuels Iraq Insurgency -Rumsfeld
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=810129
Israeli spy nest in the U.S. - Ashcroft says: ’Don’t arrest them!’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=802249
FBI probes DOD office (spy probe widens)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph
p?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=784155
F.B.I said to reach official suspected of passing secrets ....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=786361
Analyst Who Is Target of Probe Went to Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=784792
Knight Ridder:FBI espionage probe goes beyond Israeli allegations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=784274
Pentagon Analyst Was Cooperating When Israel Spy Case Became Public
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=786505
Iran-Contra II? Fresh scrutiny on rogue Pentagon operation -Josh Marshall
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=784906
AIPAC's Overt and Covert Ops
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=788267
UK Express: (Perle) Faces (FBI) Quiz Over Links to Israeli Spy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=785131
Israel Says It Has No Need to Spy on U.S.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=787437
F.B.I. Is Said to Brief Pentagon Bosses on Spy Case; Charges Are Possible
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=788936
LAT: FBI Questions Israeli Lobbyists (AIPAC) in Spying Probe ((Gilon mentioned)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=789576
FBI briefs Wolfowitz on Israeli spy claim
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=790076
F.B.I. Interviews 2 Suspected of Passing Secrets to Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=792950
FBI seizes computer from AIPAC offices
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=791564
Pentagon Office in Spying Case Was Focus of Iran Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795432
Leak Probe More Than 2 Years Old (AIPAC)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795905
AIPAC hires lawyers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794332
Spy probe scans neo-cons' Israel ties (long article from Asia Times)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794029
FBI Informed White House of AIPAC Probe Two Years Ago
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=797181
Alleged Pentagon Leak to Iraqi Is Under Investigation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798060
Serving Two Flags The Bush Neo-Cons and Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=799167
Israeli political advisor may have received U.S. secrets
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795817
Wider FBI Probe Of Pentagon Leaks Includes Chalabi - WaPo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798333
LAT: Israel Has Long Spied on US,Say Officials(but CIA, Mossad "intimate")
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798631
Defense, Cheney Iran Specialists Questioned in (Israeli Spy) Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=801031
Leak Inquiry Includes Iran Experts in Administration (WaPo)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=801678
A Web Of Intrigue Inside the Israel espionage investigation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=803022
Pro-Israel Lobby Has Strong VoiceAIPAC Is Embroiled in Investigation of Pe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=803035
Israel's Mole Inside the Pentagon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=783161
FBI probes possible Pentagon leak to Iraqi exiles
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=805885
Reporters' Files Subpoenaed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=815381
Secrets: Classified Info: Springing a Leak
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x803017
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:23 PM
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16. Wow...
...thanks for staying on top of this story.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:46 PM
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:04 PM
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18. That "Nazi filth" is from Ha'aretz
;)
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:09 AM
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19. Jerusalem: Pentagon aide was not our man
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/632646.html

<snip>

"Israel did not operate a U.S. Defense Department employee who has pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges for passing on classified information to Israeli officials, a senior official in Jerusalem said yesterday."

<snip>

"Knesset Defense and Foreign Affairs Committee chairman Yuval Steinitz said Israel had not known about Franklin's actions. "I say very clearly that Israel is not spying in the United States or against the United States," Steinitz commented. "The conviction doesn't accuse Israel of operating Franklin."

Steinitz said he had just returned from "very friendly" meetings with senior defense officials in the United States, including a talk with a deputy to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. The case did not come up in the meetings, Steinitz said."

<snip>

"Over the past two years, the FBI has focused on whether Franklin passed classified U.S. material on Iran and other matters to AIPAC, and whether the group, in turn, passed it on to Israel. Both AIPAC and Israel deny any wrongdoing. AIPAC fired Rosen and Weissman in April."






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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:13 AM
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20. Iran expert admits giving data to pro-Israel group
Posted on Thu, Oct. 06, 2005

By Jerry Markon
Washington Post

WASHINGTON - A Defense Department analyst pleaded guilty Wednesday to passing government secrets to two employees of a pro-Israel lobbying group and revealed for the first time that he also gave classified information directly to an Israeli government official in Washington.

Lawrence A. Franklin told a judge in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va., that he met at least eight times with Naor Gilon, who was the political officer at the Israeli Embassy before being recalled last summer.

The guilty plea and Franklin's account appeared to cast doubt on longstanding denials by Israeli officials that they engage in any intelligence activities in the United States. The possibility of continued Israeli spying in Washington has been a sensitive subject between the two governments since Jonathan Pollard, a U.S. Navy intelligence analyst, admitted to spying for Israel in 1987 and was sentenced to life in prison.

>snip

Legal experts called the plea a major development in the long-running investigation of whether U.S. secrets were passed to the Israeli government. Franklin said he disclosed classified data to two former employees of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Those employees, Steven J. Rosen and Keith Weissman, have been charged in what prosecutors said was a broad conspiracy to obtain and illegally pass classified information to foreign officials and news reporters.

More at;
The Mercury News


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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:23 AM
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21. Prosecutor in AIPAC affair is named new U.S. deputy AG
By Shmuel Rosner, Haaretz Correspondent

WASHINGTON - President George Bush announced Saturday his intention to nominate Paul J. McNulty, of Virginia, to be Deputy Attorney General at the Department of Justice.

McNulty is the Federal prosecutor in the cases of former defense analyst Larry Franklin, and the two former AIPAC lobbyists, Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman.

All three were indicted for conspiring "to communicate national defense information ... (to) persons not en-titled to receive it."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/636912.html


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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:04 AM
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22. Not falling on his sword I guess. nt
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