Egypt taking charge of Palestinian Authority

[newyorican]

GAZA CITY — Egypt has taken control of the Palestinian Authority. PA sources said that over the last few months, Egypt has dominated several key areas of Palestinian government, particularly in the Gaza Strip.

They said Egypt approves PA decisions regarding the deployment and training of Palestinian security forces, security operations and policy, development projects and senior appointments.

"They are in every facet of the Authority in Gaza," a PA source said. "It is correct to say that major decisions are not taken without Egypt's approval."

-snip-

The sources said Egypt has used a carrot-and-stick approach to maintain the submission of Palestinian insurgency groups. They said the regime of President Hosni Mubarak has allowed Hamas and Jihad leaders to travel freely to Cairo. Hamas was also permitted to establish an unofficial presence in the Egyptian capital.

Egypt has also been given control of both the PA airport and sea port, the sources said. They said Egyptian personnel would supervise and operate the PA airport at Dahaniya in the southern Gaza Strip as well as the sea port south of Gaza City.

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[aquart]

1. Annexation. So much for independence.

Well, with Arafat gone, maybe the Egyptians won't regret it.

[pelsar]

2. bad news...

this is actually very very bad news...if the PA cant take care of themselves in Gaza, cant learn to develop and control their own society.....how are they going to control the west bank?

what this means is that we cant trust them to have their own society...they will continue to shoot at us..and the war will go on.

very bad developement

[bemildred]

3. This is great news.

I was hoping Egypt would help the Palestinians get their shit together.
After all, they are all brother Arabs.

[pelsar]

4. you want to see oppression?

you dont really have any idea how the "arabs" take care of their brothers who dont like their authority do you?

lets put it this way...the ISM when they hear how the egyptians are occupying gaza, wont go near the place.....


http://www.derechos.org/human-rights/mena/egypt.html

these are the palestenains new oppressors..."their brothers"...boy i just cant wait to hear the protests starting from all the "liberal progressives"

[newyorican]

5. As compared to...

this? Those "arabs" are really scary, aren't they. We know how safe ISM personel are around the IDF, don't we?

BTW, thank you for identifying a Human Rights Organization you deem legitimate enough to cite.

[pelsar]

7. human rights groups...

lots of them..some are fullofshit, some are legit...this one i just pullled out of google...they were high on the list. Whether they are "real" as in amnesty intl or some pseudo "hate all westerners" type of HR i really dont know.

but i guess we should ask an ISM person if they're willing to go to gaza now (but not when they when their drinking coffee....as they might just spit it all out while laughing)

[bemildred]

6. LOL. Being aquainted with their history a bit, actually I do.

Have an idea, that is. I doubt Egypt wants to own
Gaza, but I would expect they don't want it to be
a bleeding sore and fountain of violence, and not
being as dumb as the Israelis are, they will not try
to do it by planting Egyptian settlements all over
the place while harassing the citizens constantly.
So they may have better luck.

That said, the Egyptian government's human rights record
does suck. A favorite destination for "rendering". But
that doesn't mean they are fools, or that when so directed
by self-interest, they will not do the right thing. And
it is noticeable from the story that the Gazans seem to
be quite respectful of their feelings. So it appears to
me to be a hopeful situation in the sense that there is
some chance of a restoration of civil order, or some
semblance of it.

[pelsar]

8. oh...so now occupation is ok?

is this like when syria was invited in to lebanon?

which 'occupations are ok"..the present the iraqi govt tells the US to stay...is that also OK.
I understand that China claims they were "invited" into tibet....


though i am totally against the palestenains being occupied NO MATTER what the "color' of the occupier..it do find the irony rather interesting.

so now its ok for the palestenains to be occupied.....does that also include the west bank?..should jordan "be invited back'?

what if the palesteanins in the "street" dont like their new occupiers ( benign occupation is still occupation).....whos side will you "be with?"

and the egyptians dont give a damn about the palestenains....they just dont want a terrorist/hamas strong hold on their own border.....but that is not relevant:

FREE GAZA NOW!

[Behind the Aegis]

9. Perhaps...

...if Jordan is "invited back" to the West Bank...will this become the "Egypt/Jordan/Palestine" group? I bet it would be an AWFULLY quiet room.

[bemildred]

12. Who said occupation? Did I say occupation?

Why would Egypy want to occupy Gaza?
Some sort of death wish?
What evidence is there that they plan to occupy Gaza?

[Englander]

10. Does anyone actually believe this?

I don't, my crock-of-shite-detector is off the scale, this is just
news from an alternate reality!
Or has the Moonie 'World Tribune' got themselves a world
exclusive?

No, this is fake news, fake newspaper.

[pelsar]

11. maybe....

i didnt find any other articles either.....

but i do enjoy bemildreds reaction...that suddenly occupation is now ok.....i guess that means israels occcupation of lebanon was also ok....so confusing as to which occupations are legit and which arent...

[bemildred]

13. It would be extremely stupid of the Egyptians to occupy Gaza.

And they know it.

[bemildred]

14. Occupation means taking military control of an area.

Sending the army in. You do know that?

[pelsar]

15. the article...

we'll ignore the veracity of the article...but it states:

Egypt has taken control of the Palestinian Authority

taking control means exactly that...and includes the military aspect. Whether or not that would mean uniformed egytian soldiers or just undercover ones is left open. But taking control of a the authority by a foreign govt is exactly that....occupation.

[bemildred]

16. Any control at all is military occupation. Right. nt

[pelsar]

18. the PAs problem is military....

at this point they cant control the various jihadnikim running around.....without that control there is nothing.......without control of their own internal security what good is having an egyptian clerk at customs?..If egypt enters its to enforce some kind of internal security.....

[bemildred]

19. Both Israel and Egypt are much larger than Gaza.

It is folly to think that both will not greatly
affect events in Gaza, so by your logic they are
both "occupying" Gaza. (Although I think that
legally, it is Israel that still occupies Gaza.
However these events we are discussing now might
cause that to change, and that would be a good thing.)

Perhaps soon we will see the dawning of the Islamic
Republic of Gaza.

[barb162]

17. So much for Israel supposedly controlling the air, borders, sea, etc.

"Egypt has also been given control of both the PA airport and sea port, the sources said. They said Egyptian personnel would supervise and operate the PA airport at Dahaniya in the southern Gaza Strip as well as the sea port south of Gaza City."

"Occupation" by any other name....

I have read in a few places about Jordan taking over West Bank areas and Egypt taking Gaza