40-Year Manhunt Is Zeroing In on Nazi Concentration Camp Doctor

[IndianaGreen]

It is because of the crimes committed by fugitive Nazi war criminal Aribert Heim, and others like him, that the State of Israel came into existence, and why the State of Israel must exist.

Spanish Police Say 40-Year Manhunt Is Zeroing In on Nazi Concentration Camp Doctor

By RENWICK McLEAN
Published: October 26, 2005

MADRID, Oct. 25 - After more than 40 years of searching, an international manhunt for Aribert Heim, a notorious doctor from the Nazi concentration camps and one of the most wanted Nazi war criminals, has zeroed in on a stretch of the Mediterranean coast of Spain, according to Spanish police officials.

Mr. Heim, born in Austria 91 years ago, is accused of torturing and killing hundreds of prisoners at the Mauthausen concentration camp in Austria in 1941 and 1942. The crimes for which he is sought include injecting gasoline into the hearts of victims, conducting operations on prisoners without anesthesia and executing prisoners just to record how long they took to die.

"The trial would be the most significant in the last 30 years," said Efraim Zuroff, director of the Israel office of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, which helps search for Nazi war criminals. "This case symbolizes the Nazi perversion of medicine and science, and the application of medicine to commit the most horrible atrocities."

Mr. Heim is second on the Wiesenthal Center's most wanted list of Nazi war criminals, after Alois Brunner, an assistant to Adolf Eichmann who is accused of deporting tens of thousands of Jews to Nazi concentration camps. Mr. Brunner is believed to be in Syria, and there is thought to be little chance of his being captured.

Spain has been a haven for Nazi war criminals since the end of World War II, when many were drawn here by the protection offered by the government of Francisco Franco, according to scholars of the issue.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/international/europe/26spain.html

[applegrove]

1. GET HIM! Put the monster on trial!! n/t

[nofurylike]

2. thank you for this important news, IndianaGreen. and i truly appreciate

your opening comment:
>It is because of the crimes committed by fugitive Nazi war criminal Aribert Heim, and others like him, that the State of Israel came into existence, and why the State of Israel must exist.
>

you explain so very much in so few words!


peace!

[Behind the Aegis]

3. And...

"It is because of the crimes committed by fugitive Nazi war criminal Aribert Heim, and others like him, that the State of Israel came into existence, and why the State of Israel must exist.

...it is because of him that Israel is reviled and treated as a pariah. It is because of him that the creation of Israel is the fault of the Nazi-collaborating Zionists. It is because of him that that Israel is accused of genocide. It is because of him that Israelis are murdered and it is considered acceptable. It is because of him that Jews around the world are treated with contempt, even by other Jews. It is because of him that Jews are still an "endangered species." It is because of him that anti-Semitism is acceptable. It is because of him that "Jews still play the victim."

Yes, the hunting down of a Nazi still reminds us that Jews were victims and it is nothing but a ploy to garner sympathy as Israel commits atrocities! :sarcasm:

It still amazes me that people see the discovery of Nazis as a "ploy" by Jews to allow us (worldwide) to take control.

[Violet_Crumble]

5. The only correct thing in that post is the actual quote from the article..

n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

4. What's a real pity...

..is that if and when they track him down, that they can't somehow take the many long years he's lived in comfortable freedom away from him. Every day he's lived in freedom and enjoyed his miserable sadistic life is one day too many...

Violet...

[nofurylike]

6. i am over my head on this one. did i misunderstand the passage i

expressed appreciation of?:
>"It is because of the crimes committed by fugitive Nazi war criminal Aribert Heim, and others like him, that the State of Israel came into existence, and why the State of Israel must exist.
>

will you say more about that, IndianaGreen?
thank you.

Behind the Aegis' reply, post#3, has confused me. do you feel that was a misunderstanding of your meaning?

i will come back to see if you reply. then i will, henceforth, stay out of this forum where i am out of my league.
until i have more knowledge.


peace!

[Coastie for Truth]

7. It is because there are lot more Heims in the world

then Schindlers or Wallenburgs or Sugiharas.

And it is because during the Holocaust the so-called "civilized world" which is so enamored with "International Humanitarian Law" totally and completely ignored the long established International Humanitarian Law doctrine of ASYLUM.

[nofurylike]

13. thank you, Coastie for Truth. i get it now. and i get your post now too.

absolutely!

i appreciate your kind patience.


peace!

[Behind the Aegis]

8. What is the confusion?

You said my post confused you. What about it was confusing? I will do my best to clear it up. If not here, PM me.

[nofurylike]

12. thank you for asking, Behind the Aegis. maybe if you would comment

to me about IndianaGreen's reply to me, i would better understand if i am misunderstanding your original reply.

if you do comment on that, will you please speak more simply? i can not grasp the sarcasm. i know it's my problem, but it would help me if you would be direct.


peace!

[Behind the Aegis]

15. No sarcasm this go around.

So I am clearer, the sarcasm was not directed at IG. In the past few days, I have seen comments here that blame Israel's existence on the Holocaust. I even saw one post that stated this story was trotted out to "excuse" the atrocities of Israel. Other comments were in a similar vein, basically saying that when something goes wrong in Israel, they play the "Holocaust card." It is very similar to groups that accuse blacks of always playing the "racism/slavery" card. The sarcasm was also "directed" at those who have no real concept of history and how intricate it really is.

Does that help? If not, let me know, I'll give it another whirl!

:hi:

[nofurylike]

18. thank you, Aegis, for writing more, and more simply for me!

i am still somewhat puzzled by one thing, but it is probably not fair to discuss it on this thread. i might should start another discussing it. but here, for now, part of it.
this is the statement i expressed appreciating in IG's post:

>It is because of the crimes committed by fugitive Nazi war criminal Aribert Heim, and others like him, that the State of Israel came into existence, and why the State of Israel must exist.

is that, to you, an example of what you refer to as, "comments here that blame Israel's existence on the Holocaust"?

just briefly, do you think that the Holocaust either caused or speeded up the founding of the state of Israel?

do you feel that someone believing that, automatically equals their blaming "Israel's existence upon the Holocaust"?

i know these are simplistic questions that belong on another thread, but this has been brought into this thread, so i'm wondering further about what you are saying.

thank you!

:hi:


peace!

[bemildred]

9. HI, I'm not Indiana Green either!

:hi:

[nofurylike]

14. lol! kind, though!

thank you, bemildred!

:hi:


peace!

[IndianaGreen]

10. I believe Aegis was adding his/her own personal views

I believe my statement stated in a simple manner why there is an Israel and why there must always be an Israel. Unfortunately there are those that will never be satisfied until Israel is obliterated from existence, which it is safe to assume also implies the extermination of all Israelis.

The world went through one Holocaust because many people stood on the sidelines while unspeakable crimes were being committed, but the Holocaust did not begin with Krystallnacht in 1938, or with the Nazis taking power in 1933. The Holocaust really began the day in which a Jew was murdered or beaten for no other reason than being a Jew, and no one did anything about it.

[nofurylike]

11. thank you so much for saying more, IndianaGreen! i did, then, understand

you correctly, and i do very much appreciate what you are saying. all the more, what you have added here.

the sarcasm in Aegis' reply to you threw me, and still does. but that would be between you and her/him, i guess. like much on forums, it seems as if in an esoteric languge.

but you were clear, and more so now.
i strongly agree.

thank you for this kindness.


peace!

[Colorado Blue]

16. I'd like to express frustration that similarly horrible crimes

are being committed in Africa, and people don't seem interested in stopping them.

In 3 months in Rwanda, nearly 1,000,000 people were killed. In Darfur, the horror is ongoing.

WHY? Have we so little love for one another? And why does nobody help?

[Colorado Blue]

17. Thanks, IG. eom