.. candidates must work to end lawlessness and ensure rule of law

[barb162]

http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/palestinian_authority/document.do?id=ENGMDE210032006

Palestinian Authority: Elections candidates must work to end lawlessness and ensure rule of law

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
PRESS RELEASE

AI Index: MDE 21/003/2006 (Public)
News Service No: 011
18 January 2006

Candidates to the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC) must set up mechanisms to establish the rule of law in the Gaza Strip and in the areas of the West Bank under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority (PA) where intra-Palestinian violence has reached unprecedented levels, said Amnesty International.

In an open letter sent on the eve of the Palestinian legislative elections due on 25 January, Amnesty International urged candidates to put human rights at the top of their agenda. The organization urged candidates to make concrete proposals for ending inter-factional violence and impunity, and to commit to enacting laws to deliver justice to the Palestinian people.

“Candidates should pledge to hold accountable both the PA executive and the armed groups, who bear responsibility for the increasing lawlessness and human rights abuses,” said Amnesty International.

Violence has continued to spiral in the past year amid a total absence of the rule of law, as armed groups and powerful families, clans and factions settle scores and vie for political and economic influence.

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[julianer]

1. Lawlessness, how can that be?

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'Decades of Israeli military occupation, frequent Israeli attacks on PA security installations and military blockades around Palestinian towns and villages have hindered the functioning of PA institutions, crippled the Palestinian economy, and contributed to the deterioration in the internal Palestinian security situation.'

[Behind the Aegis]

2. Indeed!

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"This, however, does not lessen the responsibility of the PA and of the political factions and armed groups for the increasing violence and lawlessness. The PA and its institutions, notably the PLC, must address these very serious challenges as a matter of urgency," said Amnesty International.

[julianer]

3. And in one move he was free!

To lump all the blame onto the victim!

In any case I didn't say it lessoned their responsibilities, merely giving some context. It would be nice for you to acknowledge the responsibilities of Israel for the situation in Palestine, as well.

(Thanks, yet again, for the homage in repeating my styles and posts - imitation is the sincerest form of flattery)

[Behind the Aegis]

4. You are confused.

There was no flattery via imitation. Think mockery.

In any case, you didn't say anything. You simply added another paragraph from the report, as did I. The implication from your post was to "excuse" the Palestinians, mine, was to expose that was not seen as a viable excuse by AI, as you implied by simply quoting the article.

[julianer]

5. So who is to blame for the

violence in the PA area? Is it just something that has occurred spontaneously?

What do you think?

[Behind the Aegis]

6. Do you think there is only one source?

You seem to think that there is only one "who" to blame. Isn't it possible that multiple "whos" exist?

What do I think? I think that there are many rogue elements, on both sides. In Gaza, most, if not all, are Palestinian. In the WB, it is probably about equal, more toward Palestinians, because they outnumber settlers, but that is just a guess.

[julianer]

7. But why is the violence happening

that's the question, not who is doing most of it at the moment.

I think, as you know, that the main responsiblity lies with the aggressors, not just in this situation but in all conflict. So the people responsible for all the violence in Iraq are the invaders - if they weren't there, there would be no violence apart from the normal in society.

Similarly in the region now occupied by Israel - they are the aggressors and the violence is their responsibility. If Israel returned to its pre 67 borders and dismantled the settlements, violence would diminish and be used only by the extemes on both sides. Unfortunately, the extremists are sitting in the Israeli government chambers at present.

[Behind the Aegis]

8. So we agree on something.

The violence is because of the invaders...Jordan and Egypt. But, now that the lands are in Israel's hands for now, who is to blame? Rogue elements.

Israel wasn't the aggressor, just the winner. As for the '67 borders, somehow, considering the declarations of the various rogue groups, I doubt the violence would diminish!

[julianer]

9. Oh, dear n/t

[pelsar]

10. the aggressors...

well this then is very confusing:

1947..agressors are the arab states...israel is the "good guy

1947-67 attacks by fedayin and fatah....israel is the good guy (palestenians bad guys)

1967 israel is attacked...israel good, arab states bad

1967-73...no settlements attacks against israel....but israel holds palestenian land,....very confusing good bad?

1973 israel attacked....hmm confusing

N.Border: upto 1982...missles landing in israel: israel good, PLO bad
1982 israel invades lebanon: israel bad, lebanese good
2000, israel leaves lebanon, gets attacked: israel good, hizballa bad

settlements....israel bad, palestenians good

gaza under pa authority attacks israel: Palestenians in gaza bad, israel good
westbank, israel bad, palestenians good...
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sure must be hard to keep the score card here: