Weekly report on human rights violations in the OPT {edit}

[Englander]

Weekly Report on Israeli Human Rights Violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory

Report, PCHR, 19 January 2006

Killing: During the reported period, IOF killed 4 Palestinians, including a woman and her son, in the West Bank. On 12 January 2006, IOF extra-judicially executed a Palestinian in Jenin, while another Palestinian blew himself up. The two were members of the al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of Islamic Jihad. On 15 January 2006, IOF killed a Palestinian woman and her son and wounded 5 other members of the same family in Roujib village, east of Nablus, for no apparent reason. Israeli military sources claimed that IOF fired at the house in response to gunfire from the house. On 17 January 2006, IOF killed a Palestinian gunman who clashed with them when they came to arrest him in Tulkarm. In addition 18 Palestinian civilians were wounded by IOF gunfire in the West Bank.

Incursions: IOF conducted 54 military incursions into Palestinian communities in the West Bank. During these incursions, IOF raided houses and arrested 94 Palestinian civilians, including 11 children. IOF also transformed 6 houses into military sites. IOF used undercover units and trained dogs during these incursions. An IOF dog bit an elderly woman in Kufor al-Dik village near Nablus.

Restrictions on Movement: IOF have continued to impose a comprehensive siege on the OPT, in violation of civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights of Palestinian civilians. IOF have continued to impose a tightened siege on the Gaza Strip, transforming it into a big prison. Rafah International Crossing Point on the Egyptian border, the sole outlet for the Gaza Strip to the outside world, has been partially reopened. The crossing point is operated for 8 hours a day only. Even though IOF reopened Beit Hanoun (Erez) crossing on 15 January 2006 and allowed dozens of Palestinian workers to travel to their work places inside Israel, they re-closed it on 18 January 2006. IOF also closed al-Mentar (Karni) commercial crossing, east of Gaza City, on 15 January 2006 and closed Sofa crossing, northeast of Rafah, on 18 January 2006.

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Annexation Wall: IOF have continued to construct the Annexation Wall inside the West Bank territory. During the reported period, IOF continued to raze areas of land to the east of "Shavi Shomron" settlement, northwest of Nablus, to establish a wall around it. They also continued to aze areas of land in 'Aaboud village, northwest of Ramallah, in Bal'ein village, west of the town, and in Beit Jala town for the purpose of the construction of sections of the Wall.

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Illegal Settler Activities: Israeli settlers in breach of international humanitarian law continue to reside in the OPT and have launched a series of attacks against Palestinian civilians and property. During the reported period, Israeli settlers launched a series of attacks on Palestinian civilians and property in Hebron. They also uprooted 120 olive trees in Yatta village, south of Hebron; and seized 150 dunums of land in Dura village, southwest of the town. IOF demolished 5 houses in the West Bank.

More at;
Electronic Intifada

Full report (pdf document);
http://www.pchrgaza.org/files/W_report/English/2006/pdf/weekly%20report%2002.pdf

[papau]

1. WE should post the above with Haretz version and Post version of

those events.

I recall the mother and son and a gun being loaded by one and shot by the other - and some firing on settlers occuring before the incident.

Of course given the constant waring - as in tree cut downs, etc - it is impossible to say who started what. And no one deserves to be killed.

But I do wonder if over time the reports of events in one media outlet will get closer to the report of the same events in other media outlets in the area.

It would help if the the 150 dunums of land "seized"(by whom. for what reason,and in what way seized would also be interesting) were also expressed as English Acres so folks could realized we are talking about 37 acres (1 Dunum = 1000 square Meters = appr. ¼ Acre)

In any case, I wish the media on both sides reported all the info on anything they do report on.

[eyl]

2. How, exactly, is a "Palestinian blowing himself up"

an Israeli human rights violation?

As for the woman and her son:

Palestinian witnesses said those killed were a 48-year-old woman and her 20-year-old son. Medics said four other family members were wounded.

The witnesses said the family had opened fire at people whom they thought were trying to steal their car

So of the 4 fatal Israeli "human rights violations", one was someone who killed himself and the other two fired first? (again, all this is by Palestinian accounts)

[Englander]

4. Don't ask me, take it up with PCHR, I didn't write it.

If you don't like their take on events, that's fine, don't believe it,
that's yer perogative, the choice is yours to make. I do, on the whole,
but that's just me, I guess. Believe what yer want, I'm not sure what
would be sufficient, what would be enough to quell those doubts, who
can say?

[pelsar]

5. its called logic....

if a palestenian blows himself up and that killing is then blamed on israel as a violation of human rights....well to believe such illogical dribble simple shows not just lack of credibility but the typical " israel is evil" syndrome

[Violet_Crumble]

6. Is the killing of a child also 'israel is evil' syndrome?

I mean, you did read that bit, didn't you? Or is it considered not credible as well?

Violet...

[pelsar]

9. yes i read it....

and by confusing issues i have no idea what to believe....in fact if i want to know the truth i have to find multiple sources, check their background to check their credability.

that particular report is simply not credible due to the way its written, starting off with the slander of the IDF.....whether or not those particular killings are true or not ( and they may very well be).....i dont know, but i do know that as far as i am concerned there is no credability here.

just the two notes of what ely and myself noted.....let the authors write properly and i'll be glad to give them credit and then their criticisms of israel may have some credability, but until then,

(blaming israel for a palestenain blowing himself up?.....you've got to be kidding, the auther must think no one reads it with any kind of critical thinking, or that anybody who does, must want to join the "bash israel club" for everything and anything.)

[Violet_Crumble]

11. I'd be thinking the killing of civilians would be something worth checking

I'm curious. The IDF have confused issues in the past, and they're not particularly credible when it comes to the truth at times. Do you also feel you have to find multiple sources and check their background for credibility when it comes to Israelis being killed, or does this lack of credibility only extend to Palestinians?

What's the difference between blaming Israel for a palestinian blowing himself up, and blaming Palestinians for Israelis killing civilians? Because I've seen that latter attitude touted in this forum in the past, and I haven't seen anyone accusing them of wanting to join the "bash Palestine club" for everything and anything...

Violet...

[eyl]

16. And when you see someone with that attitude

do you also tought him as a credible source?

[Englander]

13. The PCHR are plenty credible, they're very objective.

If any reader has any problems with PCHR, then it's most likely the
fault of the reader, rather than PCHR. It's most likely that any
problems are caused by any misunderstandings, whether they're accidental,
or deliberate. If there's any attempt made to claim that PCHR are, quote,
"not credible", that attempt says more about those making the attempt,
than PCHR.

'Source: Palestinian Centre for Human Rights (PCHR)

Date: 17 Jan 2006

Severe restrictions on movement in the West Bank impact the election campaigns

http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/RMOI-6L64XQ?OpenDocument

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[eyl]

15. Please point out where it says a child was killed?

Under "killings", 5 fatalities are listed:

An IJ member who was "extrajudicially executed"

An IJ member who blew himself up

A woman and her adult son who - according to Palestinian witnesses - were killed after opening fire on the soldiers

A gunman of an unspecified faction who was killed in a "clash" with IDF soldiers. I assume he fired first, given that the report itself states they came to arrest him.

In short, out of 5 fatal "Israeli human rights violations", one was a suicide and three were killed in self-defense - and again, all this is from Palestinian sources, and part from the report making the accusations.

So let me ask you - did you read it?

[Englander]

10. It isn't, it wasn't, it isn't. ( in that order).

What you've described isn't logic, it's an eg of taking 2, & 2, adding them
together & coming up with 42. The report doesn't make the claim that you claim
it does, it does not "blame Isreal" for the mentioned death, it does not say
that the "blame" lays anywhere, but merely states that 'another Palestinian blew himself up'.
That is merely a statement of fact, there's nothing there that would lead any
objective reader to claim that the false opinion, you're claiming, is present.
It isn't.

Also, could you provide an eg from this report, where it claims that, quote,
"Isreal is evil"? I looked, & I looked, but I couldn't see any egs of that,
could you provide an eg where that happened?

[eyl]

17. The report is titled "On Israeli human rights violations"

The expectation is that what it contains - unless specifically stated otherwise - is being presented as such a violation.

If you ask me for a list of dog breeds, and I give you

Poodle
Rotweiller
Clydesdale
Spaniel

Are you going to say I'm not trying to pass "Clydesdale" off as a dog breed (deliberately or otherwise) because I didn't specifically state it was a dog - even though the list is titled "dog breeds"?

Of course, the analogy is flawed because I don't really have an interest in presenting a Clydesdale as a dog to you.

[eyl]

14. Believe it?

I didn't even bother to challenge their veracity! The report, which you posted (and thus I'm askign you about it), explicitly lists under Israeli human rights violations a man which the report states killed himself!


Do you bother to read you links before posting? Or is this just on the principle of "throw enough mud, some of it will stick"?

[pelsar]

3. nothing like confusing the facts...

i liked this one:

IOF have continued to impose a tightened siege on the Gaza Strip, transforming it into a big prison......

and then in the next sentence mentions the rafah border control that is controlled by egypt and the palestenians.....

you just got to love the way they write a headline and then contract themselves in the context.....anything to bash israel....

[Violet_Crumble]

7. If Israel has nothing to do with the Rafah crossing...

..then why has Israel threatened to shut it down? Either they have some control of it to do that sort of thing, or they don't. Which is it?

Violet...

[pelsar]

8. no control...

the only way israel can close it is via invasion and that would possibly cause trouble with the egyptians...(unless they agree).....the euros have no power there, the video feeds arrive 8 minutes late to israel...so....

its a palestenian/egyptian....the hours its open or not is hardly an israeli issue, yet the auther writes as if it is...tsk tsk tsk.......

[Violet_Crumble]

12. And how does that mean that Gaza isn't under siege?

Israel does control the goods crossing, doesn't it? How exactly does narrowing everything down to just one crossing mean Gaza isn't under siege? What I find very strange is that all sorts of terms like that are used by pro-Israeli folk when describing missile attacks on Israel, but the second those same terms are used to describe what's done to Palestinians, suddenly it becomes a matter of being sticklers for technically correct language. So my question is, why is it considered okay for it to be done when talking about Israel, but not okay when talking about Palestine?

Violet...

[undergroundrailroad]

18. Locking.

Thank you.


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