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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:18 PM
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Iran ready to send 'investigators' to Nazi death camps
Iran said Wednesday it was willing to send a team of "independent investigators" to visit former Nazi deaths camps across Europe -- but not President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who has described the Holocaust as a "myth"

"We are ready to send teams of independent investigators to the places Mr. Blair speaks of," he said, but said these teams would comprise of people "who are not sympathetic to those who committed the crimes and who are not sympathetic to the Zionist regime (Israel)."

On Monday, Blair lashed out at an Iranian foreign ministry plan to stage a conference questioning the Holocaust as "shocking, ridiculous, stupid".

Iran on Tuesday defended its plan to stage a conference questioning the Holocaust and accused British Prime Minister Tony Blair of "intolerance" for criticising the event.

http://www.ejpress.org/article/5413
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:20 PM
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1. This might be a good thing
I know what it's like to grow up in an insulated culture ... I'm curious to see how this shakes out.

Thanks for the post.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:23 PM
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5. You can find proof to back up almost any position
Want proof the Holocaust never happened? Just go to practically any neo-Nazi website (National Alliance, Aryan Nations, etc). You'll find all the proof you need.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:21 PM
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2. What are they going to do? Count bodies?
"Yep, only 5,999,999 of them. They lied. 6,000,000 Jews didn't die in the Holocaust."
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:23 PM
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6. Remember that scholars differ....
Low estimate is 5 million. High estimate is rather above 6 million.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:21 PM
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3. What a loon
he's like an Islamic Lyndon LaRouche.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:22 PM
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4. LOL!
So true, and so, so sad.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:39 PM
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7. Ahmadinejad:conveniently declares himself a 'Hitler'.
It used to be you had to declare the 'enemy' de jour a 'Hitler' instead of them doing it for you.

http://www.ipsnews.net/print.asp?idnews=31890
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:40 PM
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8. I wonder what this loopy fucker is trying to accomplish. It baffles me. nt
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:55 PM
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9. I believe he is attempting to force the West to question...
...the glaring hypocrisy that is the Israeli state.

Unfortunately he is going about it with all the sublety of FLAME...
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 01:23 PM
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11. Yeah...
The Iranians are really 'denying' Israel, not the Holocuast.

The conference will be much more topical to what is going on now in the ME, to be sure.

Perhaps a moderated topic forum slotted just after Lunch Break, Day 2; "The Dynamics of Population Impacts from the Comparative Case Studies of Gaza Strip and Warsaw Ghetto; towards a new paradigm?"

The Iranian PM sure knows how to get the attention of the western press.
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channa18 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 01:03 PM
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10. I think this is a good idea....
its not like he's got a hatred of jews or anything, that he cant be 'fair and balanced'.

Golly, i cant wait for him to wipe israel off the face of the earth.

Then he'll aim those nukes right at europe or better yet let those freedom fighters at al-queda borrow a couple to spread around.

Yuup...should be quite a party.




END OFINSUFFERABLE SARCASM.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 01:25 PM
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12. Here come the Zionist with their bombs to start WWIII.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 11:36 PM
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15. Sounds more like here comes the Iranians to start WW3
Edited on Thu Jan-26-06 12:14 AM by barb162
but then again they may deny the existence of WW2 also because, you know, that's part of the time the Holocaust took place, oops, or maybe took place. All those soldiers who saw the camps were not really fighting in WW2 either and they must have been imagining these bones and graves and starving people. Only this great Iranian Holocaust fact-finding conference will discover the great uncovered truths of what happened in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s. Maybe they will find Hitler, Eichmann and Mengele never existed. I predict they will check out the Dachau gas chambers, etc., and decide these are simply old movie sets or abandoned factories. Voila, no Holocaust. Voila, there was never a WW2 and all the soldiers were hallucinating that they saw camps. Voila. The next World War must therefore be called WW2.


:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:



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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 02:11 PM
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13. Oh for heaven's sake.
This is absurd, offensive and pitiable, all at once.

I suppose all those 11 million just evaporated?

Most importantly, if the perpetrators of these crimes have willingly shouldered the burden of their guilt - and hold these horrors as something forever to be avoided in the future - who the hell are these people to question them?

This whole situation is taking a truly dreadful direction.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 11:58 PM
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16. IT'S POSITIVELY SURREAL
These people calling for Holocaust fact-finding are either (1) beyond dense or (2) they have never had any world historical education or (3) they exist on another plane somewhere beyond this solar system or (4) they need to deny facts they feel are important for Israel's creation.

ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
and the answer folks (drumroll), IIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS: FOUR!!!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 01:07 AM
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19. well, when Blair starts getting upset...
When the British start getting upset....

Yes, it gets crazier and crazier by the week. I wonder what they will think when some death camp survivors come up to them and show them their tattoos. I suspect they will just blow that off too.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 02:29 PM
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14. A lot of things in History that I question
Like, I do NOT question the occurrence of the NAKBA. I believe it happened. But

I question whether it was 520,000 or 750,000?

I question if the Mandatory Powers (UK) were cheerleaders - or the Saudis - or the Arab League were cheerleaders.

I also question why those who most forcefully assert a NAKBA in the highest range (over 750,000) are also the most vociferous in challenging the claims of .
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:08 AM
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17. Well, good for them and they should take it to the UN too.
Edited on Thu Jan-26-06 12:11 AM by barb162
This should be before the UN too and why it isn't when the Palestinian issue is, I don't know other than for political pressure. So there might as well be political pressure for the Jews of the Mideast. Seems like it was way over a million kicked out and property confiscated.

http://www.hsje.org/articleposting/_aticleposting/00000015.htm

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:18 AM
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18. They need to call this "The Holocaust Denial Conference"
co-sponsored by the KKK and the government of Iran and just be done with it already.
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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 10:18 AM
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20. can't they just interview some
Holocaust survivors? it would only cost a few rials to call a few up on the celly. I love how the same people who accept as concrete fact something that happened in the 7th century, and is impossible to prove, deny the occurance of an event 60 years ago - nevermind the mountains of empirical evidence which proves the Holocaust took place.

Witness the power of blind faith and the dangers of mixing religion with politics.
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