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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 04:50 AM
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Anti-Hamas measures launched in Congress
Edited on Sat Feb-04-06 04:51 AM by barb162
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060201-110337-9873r

Anti-Hamas measures launched in Congress
WASHINGTON, Feb. 1 (UPI) -- A measure has been introduced in Congress to crack down on Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., submitted Tuesday the first legislative response to Hamas' landslide victory in Palestinian elections last week. Her bill, co-sponsored by Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., includes a number of tough measures against the radical Islamic movement, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported.

However, the Bush administration is expected to try to moderate its tone during negotiations with legislators, which are expected to last a few weeks, the newspaper said.

Republican Congressman Vito Fossella, from New York, also introduced legislation on Tuesday banning support for the Palestinian Authority.

"Not one dollar of taxpayer money should go to this terrorist organization," Fossella said. "The Palestinian people have every right to elect a terrorist organization to control their government -- and the United States has every right to eliminate any financial assistance for it."
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 05:46 AM
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1. Are we legislating interference in a democratically-elected government?
Oh, that's just swell. And dumb.

Now they get to be loyal to the jerks who DO fund them.

Tell me how they're different from the Saudis? Oh, right. No oil.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:50 AM
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6. No, it's simply aimed at not funding terrorists
There was a poll posted in this forum in the last few weeks that indicated that 65% or so of Palestinians would "applaud" al qaida attacks on the US and Europe. That seems to me there is not much loyalty for the millions in US donations and tax dollars that have gone to the Palestinians. Why expect they would be loyal to others that donate?

The Saudis would probably fund them along with others.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 06:53 AM
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2. Great.
Nothing like Congress adding fuel to an already tense situation. They need to keep quiet and give the Israelis and Palestinians a chance to feel things out.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:55 AM
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7.  do you have an issue with funding an FTO?
"Not one dollar of taxpayer money should go to this terrorist organization" namely Hamas
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 07:37 AM
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3. "crack down" = attitude of an @$$hole, when the doo-doo is due.
Edited on Sat Feb-04-06 08:08 AM by Hubert Flottz
Stirring up still more Doo-Doo, in the Middle East??? Just what we need, another war! Li'l George does not play well with others. The people in the Middle East are already busy enough fighting each other, why do we need to jump in and make it another world war, like the First, Second and Third Reichs caused in the past? I guess if you've seen one Reich, you've seen them all. Here's George and his Noble Causers, who we know for sure now, manufacture and invent ALL the "Noble Causes," instigating an all-out World War III, when they can't even win the "police action" they started in Iraq.

I wonder who in the GOP/DoD upper management, is really behind all this instigating of incendiary, abrasive, intrusive, policy that always steers this country into conflicts near the "Promised Lands?" I mean, why in the world, would the "Office Of Special Planning" team at our PNACer infested Pentagon, give a single damn, about that part of the Middle East, there isn't any big oil deposits under the Palestinian's turf? Oh Yeah...I forgot, Karl wants to stir up Armageddon for the base and drop some of Poppy Bush/Carlyle Group's smart@$$ed weapons in that area, so that Cheney's company can get some no bid contracts to loot and plunder the place.

The GOPer's Gawd of War, the Commander in Cheat/King/Chosen One/Good Ole Boy, is bound and determined to nuke someone! It's like turning Jethro Bodine loose with the Doom's Day Football. Bush thinks he can out-do Harry Truman if he drops a bigger device I guess. Size means everything to the transplanted Texan. Bush will be the first Commander in Chimp in history to fumble the Nuclear Football on the PNAC's own goal line, and he could be the last man to do it too, as far as human life on Earth is concerned. I'd guess that once the nukes start to fly, anywhere on the planet, it could touch off the last war. The big "Crack Down," could lead to the last Crack Up!

Nobody but a drug crazed CRACK HEAD, would even dream of launching even a tactical nuclear exchange, but we all know how burned out on drugs and booze some folks criminal brains can get.

America needs to stop with the taking sides attitude and get back to the attitude that Clinton had and try and play the role of the peacemaker, because there needs to be a settling of the conflict. The GOP ALWAYS wants to throw gasoline on the flame, because war is the GOP's political and financial cash cow, ALWAYS!
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:47 AM
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4. The best anti-Hamas measures - that would also get us out of Iraq
It is all about financial support - the wrong kind of financial support from the wrong places.
    1. Raise CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standards to 45 miles per gallon - the Japanese, Koreans, Germans, and Swedes can meet it -- why cna't Detroit.

    2. Single payer, universal health care - take it off of the back of Detroit so that Detroit can compete fairly --- but with a quid pro quo that they actually develop and market clean, green, fuel saving cars.

    3. Encourage "flexible fuel cars" that can run on everthing from C1 (natural gas) to C20 (biomass) -- and everything and anything in between - by actual tax breaks to purchasers. They have these in South America. Heck, GM manufactures them in South America.

    4. Plug in hybrids (EPA doesn't like these - because it messes up their mileage and emissions calculations and measurements - hey I was a government sfaety and environmental engineer - and that don't make no sense to me).
    :shrug:


Bush talks about making us energy independent- while he changes his mind and lays off 15% of our engineers in the field.
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2436007


Bush is making us ever more energy dependent and subsidizing terrorists and enablers/facilitators of terror.

See "House of Bush, House of Saud: The Secret Relationship Between the World's Two Most Powerful Dynasties" by Craig Unger.

See the blog of a real, non-petroleum, energy engineer - who tells it like it is --



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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:57 AM
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8. from that SOTU this past week, I think we'll have to wait
a while on these sensible measures.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:10 PM
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9. We may have to wait until we have the barn burner of a depression
(not burp or recession) that James Howard Kunstler ("The Long Emergency: Surviving the Converging Catastrophes of the Twenty-First Century") predicts. And, the longer we wait the more likely the Kunstler "energy depression" is, and the more severe it will be.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:54 PM
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10. That book
is SO depressing and eye-opening. I wasn't able to finish it. I haven't seen any SUVs traded in yet on my block. I am not seeing more of the smaller cars around here either.
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channa18 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:40 AM
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5. Interesting article.
Thank you for posting.
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