Israeli troops kill Palestinian boy

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A Palestinian teenager with learning difficulties has been shot dead by Israeli troops during clashes near the northern West Bank city of Jenin.


Palestinian security forces said Israeli soldiers shot and killed Mujahid Samadi, a retarded 15-year-old Palestinian boy who was carrying a toy gun, on Wednesday.

Witnesses said the clashes had broken out when about 20 Israeli jeeps entered the village of Qabatiya, south of Jenin, in the early morning.

The victim had wandered out into the streets with a stick in his hand which the Israelis appeared to have mistaken for a weapon.

A spokesman for the army said that initial reports indicated that soldiers had identified a "suspect armed with a weapon who was threatening them and fired in his direction."

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/235D9A48-E6A5-4318-B83B-88EF9F375652.htm

[bemildred]

1. Yippee, I feel safer all ready. nt

[RJnAbbysNana]

2. The poor kid never stood a chance.

n/t

[eyl]

3. So which was it?

A stick or a toy gun?

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11. Don't know for sure...

I don't know if it really matters, as the troops have been known to open fire on Palestinians who are unarmed. So carrying a stick would be just as much a reason for firing on a Palestinian as if they were carrying a toy gun...

Violet....

[ermoore]

4. On the other hand . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bomber

I know it's Wikipedia, but still it's trustworthy for things less of this nature (not being published).

[bemildred]

5. Suicide bombers don't walk around with guns in their hands.

That isn't the idea when you are doing a suicide attack.
The idea then is you walk up calm and cool, maybe whistle
a big, not alarm anybody, and then when the time is right
set off your little surprise. So the last thing you want
is something suspicious like a gun in your hand. So whatever
it was they shot him for, it wasn't for being a child suicide
bomber.

[ermoore]

6. A real poor clarification.

I know, I'm not saying this kid was a suicide bomber. I'm just saying that while most people could not even think of shooting a child, Palestinians have put their children into the line of fire by making them not automatically innocents. I'm just saying (not very well) that most people have a block that prevents them from harming children (or something like that), but Israeli soldiers can no longer afford to see Palestinian children as just innocents to be protected or ignored. I don't know what the circumstances were in this case, but I'm just saying.

[bemildred]

8. Kids make great cannon fodder, and are used that way most anywhere

and anywhen. The Palestinians have put their children
in the line of fire no more and no less than anyone
else.

One example for you:

Tamil Tigers say 28 underage combatants discharged

http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?aid=275760&sid=SAS

LRA in Uganda is famous for it too, but it's simply not a rare
thing. Even in the so called advanced nations, once you are 17
or so, you are prime material.

I understand you don't like the suiciders, but don't confuse
that with the fondness the military has for young cannon fodder,
it's unpleasant, but it's not special.

[pelsar]

7. but they dont.....just some info

in real life they kids scared out of their wits......and many times their body language gives them away (thats why so many are caught at the checkpoints and near the wall openings.

[bemildred]

9. Theory doesn't always match practice, that is true. nt

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10. Israelis shoot unarmed Palestinian

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Israeli occupation forces have shot an unarmed, mentally impaired Palestinian man at close range near the Gaza border fence, Palestinian and Israeli sources say

"Mofeed Abu Imghaseet, 25, from Khan Yunis, was seriously injured late on Wednesday night after being shot by Israeli troops near the border fence in the northern Gaza "no-go" zone.

Palestinian medical sources said Abu Imghaseet had wandered off towards the border, unaware of his location, when he was shot.

"He's currently in the hospital, in serious but stable condition. He was injured in the left thigh, after being found near the fence, where he had wandered off to," said Ziad Abu Shareea of the Kamel Udwan Hospital in Jabalia."

A spokesperson for the Israeli army said Israeli troops shot at Abu Imghaseet after noticing "a figure which was acting suspiciously" approaching the northern Gaza Strip border fence."

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[pelsar]

12. 18 km....

palestinian medical sources said Abu Imghaseet had wandered off towards the border, unaware of his location,

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just a minor detail: Khan Yuni is 18 km from the N.Border fence...

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13. What's yr point, pelsar?

n/t

[pelsar]

14. just questioning ....

Palestinian medical sources said Abu Imghaseet had wandered off towards the border.....

just wondering how someone wanders off 18km from home.....if thats what happened...or maybe he didnt wander, ...maybe his family was havinga picnik near erez visiting the officers building and he wandered just 2km north to the border and nobody noticed....or maybe he wasnt impared and was part of the continual attempts of the "palestenians in the minority that voted for hamas" that keep trying to kill israelis by either tunneling under, hopping over or shooting via the border fence....just wondering