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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:46 PM
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Arafat Tells Supporters They Will Go to Jerusalem as Martyrs
RAMALLAH, West Bank — Yasser Arafat (search) emerged from his office for a second straight night Friday, telling hundreds of supporters they will go to Jerusalem as martyrs.

Arafat spoke one day after Israeli leaders announced they had decided to "remove" Arafat whenever they choose. The vague wording left room for several options: deporting Arafat, capturing him or killing him.

"To Jerusalem we are going as martyrs in the millions," Arafat told the crowd.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97200,00.html
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:49 PM
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1. Ruh-oh
If he means this literally....
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:55 PM
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4. you said it...
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Griot Tm Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:07 PM
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6. Same old song and dance
"To Jerusalem we go, with martyrs in the millions" is a well known chant in the Palestinian territories. This is nothing new from Arafat, as a quick search of google (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=arafat+%22martyrs+in+the+millions%22)will bring up many instances from the past few years when he has used this phrase.

example: (5/14/2002) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/05/14/wmid114.xml



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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:14 PM
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8. So
he's given plenty of warning then, hasn't he.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 02:01 PM
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30. Not Necessarily
"Martyr" doesn't necessarily mean "suicide bomber". It could also mean that they're willing to go to Jerusalem, demonstrate, and die when Israelis respond with gunfire. It could also mean that they're willing to die fighting Israeli soldiers.

Martyrdom simply implies willingness to die for a cause. It doesn't necessarily imply killing civilians for a cause.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:51 PM
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2. you know..
Radicals in Palestine view this statement as condoning suicide bombings. Why Mossad hasn't injected Arafat with a heart attack inducing agent yet is beyond me.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:54 PM
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3. Because
what comes after Arafat, is far far worse.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:01 PM
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5. probably...
Palestine has little hope to be anything more than another Syria.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:47 PM
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13. Too clean...
Sharon wants to kill Arafat personally, and the more Palestinians he has to kill to get there, even better.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 11:01 AM
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15. I doubt sincerely Sharon is just a maniac...
Wanting to kill Arabs. Israel could totally annihilate the Westt Bank if they wanted.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 11:15 AM
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18. The victims and their families of the Sabra and Shatila massacre
which Ariel Sharon masterminded might disagree that "Sharon is just a maniac wanting to kill Arabs"
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 11:18 AM
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19. they couldn't do it and still rely on the US
Edited on Sat Sep-13-03 11:18 AM by StandWatie
They can't even kill Arafat without US approval. It's ironic that Jews survived for thousands of years without any help from anyone and now the only Jewish country is a slave of GW Bush.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 12:52 PM
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24. There are some who say
the opposite (Muslims) - that the US is slave to Israel.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:09 PM
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25. there are some that are idiots
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rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:35 PM
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28. Oh
You are in Arik's confidence and he has personally told you this?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 11:26 AM
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21. What is beyond me..
..is how some people can be so cavalier about murder.
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bambo53 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:11 PM
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7. Why not just "defoliate" the whole area with Valiums?

And drop leaflets advising them to go home, take a shave & a shower, and see if they feel a little more "mellow" in the morning.

(That'll be $65, thank you :)
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:21 PM
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9. Perhaps
because painting the entire population as hairy, overwrought and unclean isn't the most productive way to end the violence.
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rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:40 PM
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29. I love it!
Valium salt licks, Prosac laced coffe.........happy smily faces instead of hate filled graffiti. :toast: That's the most sensible suggestion I've heard in years.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:25 PM
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10. Is That Martyrs as in "terrorists"
Or martyrs as in "casualties of Israeli violence"?
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:32 PM
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11. Are they going to make Israel annihilate them?
for Israel to finally commit the genocide that they have been standing on the edge of?

What will that do to thier "victim" identity that they have enjoyed for so long?
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:38 PM
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12. not a damn thing
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 11:03 AM
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16. you're a spinmaster...
The Arab extremists are the ones committing genocide against Jews.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 11:15 AM
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17. *yawn*
You cheapen the word genocide.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 11:23 AM
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20. No One In The Region, Sir
Is committing genocide against anyone. The populations continue to increase, after all: were genocide occuring, one or the other would be declining precipitously.

Mr. Watie is correct. The term is, and has been, grossly cheapened by rhetorical exaggeration, and on all sides.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:26 PM
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27. You probably support Iraq Slaughter II, right?
Just wondering...
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 05:20 PM
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14. It's an announcement he will not cooperate with the Israeli Cabinet
If he's to be expelled, it will have to be done at the (hot) barrel of a (probably smoking) gun.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 12:05 PM
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22. What will Israel do without Arafat?
Who will they have to blame? People forget that everytime there is progress on peace in the ME Israel assassinates, builds a new settlement bulldozzes, or bombs or otherwise kills someone to set the peace process back. REMEMBER, it was an Israeli who shot and killed Rabin when he was close to finalizing a plan with Clinton...not a Palestinian or other Arab.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 12:15 PM
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23. Speaking of Rabin..
Today marks the tenth anniversary of the day when the Oslo "land for peace" accord was signed on the Whitehouse lawn. RIP Yitzak.



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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:11 PM
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26. Do you think there is significance
in the idea that it might turn out to be an Israeli honor of killing both Rabin and Arafat?
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