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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 01:16 PM Original message |
Exiled Hamas leader says Palestinians should seize more soldiers |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. I wonder how many Palestinian children Israel seized today? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. none, unless they are armed |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. And where's the link for yr claim? |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 04:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Link? Israel only arresting children armed with weapons? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I believe you are misstating Joad's comment which contained |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. No, I'm questioning a claim YOU made |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Since you don't know or can't prove I am incorrect, unless |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Seeing you won't back up yr claim.. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. I backed it up in post 3. See any stories on "kids" getting arrested |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 05:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
50. No you didn't... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
79. So, did you see any reports of kids arrested that day? |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yes, usually the children have two arms, two eyes (filled with tears) |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. see post 9, they certainly are armed; suicide belts, rocks, guns |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Mass arrests, detention and torture or ill-treatment of Palestinians |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Is that the topic of the OP? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Nope. Maybe some people want to change the subject |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. There's nothing wrong with capturing troops... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. If there's nothing wrong with capturing troops and it's so legit |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Because they're generally consistent.. |
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Scorpio2000 (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. POW |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 05:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
51. There are no POW's in the I/P conflict... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Kidnapping is a crime in civilized societies. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Capturing A Soldier At War, Ma'am, Is Not A Crime |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. It's not "declared " war |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. But It Is A War, Ma'am, As A Practical Matter Of Fact |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. bwaha! |
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daveskilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 12:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
78. If it is a war - there is no problem with israel leveling gaza |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:12 AM Response to Reply #23 |
47. 'Kidnapping is a crime in civilized societies.' |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 06:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. And that's only one of several instances... |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 05:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Depends |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 06:01 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. So how was that Palestinian in a Palestinian prison a combatant? |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 07:07 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. As I recall |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 07:18 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. But he was a prisoner and not a combatant... |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Why are you assuming |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 03:17 AM Response to Reply #59 |
71. Here's why... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
80. I thought capturing uniformed soldiers is "war", not "crime" |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. Well, we know that the Palestinian militants have already taken one... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. the usual attempt at the "equalization".... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Yes, some have extremely strange values and will do anything |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. What's so unpleasant about the OP? |
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Scorpio2000 (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. So much for that theory |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. "Israeli" troops are legitimate targets.. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Israeli troops in ISRAEL aren't legitimate targets |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Then Palestinian fighters driving down the street, surrounded by |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 06:22 AM Response to Reply #24 |
54. Clear as mud, barb... |
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Scorpio2000 (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Sounds right, but... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. That's a very good and correct point |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. But The Man In Question, Sir, Is a Uniformed Soldier |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Agreed. On a mild tangent, do you have any thoughts on... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Uniform Is A Convenient Short-Hand, Sir, For Active Combatant |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Question for you Sir... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 11:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. To My View, sir |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. If you don't mind me taking a semi-academic approach here |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 06:28 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. The only realistic option for Israel is... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Not at all realistic |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 11:55 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Israel has exchanged prisoners |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. That just encourages more of the same |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 03:31 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. It doesn't seem to have done so in the past... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 04:03 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. it's been a set-up! |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 07:26 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. It hasn't been commonly used |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 07:58 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. At this point I think that's a risk that should be taken... |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. But a prisoner exchange |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. It still isn't a good policy. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Israel could make a gestrue. Israel could release a few hundred |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. I doubt they'd even take the children. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 09:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I expect it to end with Israel killing many children. |
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Scorpio2000 (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. You know the drill |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Of course |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-29-06 05:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Where did Tom imply that Palestinians would never kill young Israelis? |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Right, it is certainly tragic though. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. You are joking, right?! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 03:22 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Deleted message |
Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
64. my "posistion"? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Poor try ,Violet |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 06:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
53. I see. So you were referring to yrself in the post title... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
33. There is a poll on the Jeruselum Post where 80% are in favor of |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Lonestarnot: In my opinion ultra-conservative elements which have.... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. I have the same impression. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-27-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. There Is Also Polling Data, Ma'am |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-28-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. what percent? |
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