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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 12:31 AM
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Miltary police unlikely to press charges in IAF teen rape case
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"There is a growing likelihood that no one will be indicted in the case of the teenage girl who was serially raped on an Israel Air Force base in the south, since the Military Police have failed to turn up any evidence that the servicemen who had sex with her knew she was under the age of consent.

The army's chief prosecutor, Brigadier General Avihai Mandelblit, will decide whether to file indictments in the upcoming weeks, after reviewing the findings of the weeks-long Military Police investigation, which ended recently.

The 15-year-old victim told investigators early on in the probe that she had lied to the soldiers, telling them she was 16.5 or 17, which is old enough for consensual sex. Lacking any evidence that the soldiers knew her true age - which would make them guilty of statutory rape - there may be no grounds for an indictment, since there is also no evidence that the sexual encounters took place against her will.

During the investigation, military policemen questioned almost 200 soldiers, officers and noncommissioned officers (NCOs) at the base.

Of these, 81 were suspected of having slept with the girl, and 25 admitted to having done so. However, all 25 said they were unaware of her true age."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/737605.html


Her true age was 11:

Israeli Troops Face Probe on Rape Charge (05/01/06)

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1910231

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"It's being described as the worst sexual abuse scandal in the army's history. At least 17 Israeli soldiers are under investigation in the statutory rape of an 11-year-old girl who lived with her family on an air force base in southern Israel.

Defense lawyers say the girl lied to the soldiers about her age, claiming she was older, and the sex was consensual.

The case marks a new low for the military, once Israel's most revered institution but tarnished in recent years by financial corruption and sexual misconduct."

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"According to media reports, the girl, now 14, told military investigators the sex was consensual and she had lied to the soldiers about her age. Some soldiers involved told investigators the girl claimed to be 16, and they had no idea she had yet to reach her 12th birthday."



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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 12:40 AM
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1. Was 11 at the time. And it's 3 years later.
Just clarifying that part. How you mistake an 11 year old for a 16+ year old, well, don't ask me, I've never been in a position to want to trick my mind into believing such a thing.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 12:53 AM
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4. I wonder how much alcohol had to do with it...n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 12:40 AM
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2. It suggests that they use prostitutes a lot
Not because of the girl being underage but because 81 were suspected of having sex with her. 81 Israeli soldiers that couldn't possibly all have sex with just the one girl.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 12:53 AM
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3. Israel being Godly again
I'm sure that story would be bought here.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 01:15 AM
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5. What is that even supposed to mean?!
Israel is supposed to "G-dly?"
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 01:30 AM
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6. Ask the neocon Christians why we must support Israel
It's because of Biblical prophecy. God's chosen people. Their military isn't acting too Godly in their usage of a young girl for their sexual needs.

They wouldn't get away with it here, yet we subsidize these people. Robertson/W/Falwell adore them.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 01:37 AM
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7. Boy, that is a mix of many things.
I could careless why the neo-con, uber-fundamentalists support Israel. They have the same goals of the uber fanatical Muslims...destroy the Jews.

As for "G-d's Chosen people," I am really sick of people throwing that out there and having no fucking clue what it means!

Like any large group, there are always going to be problems with some of its members. I find it interesting that so many think Israel should be above everyone else in their actions. Talk about unrealistic!

Your comments really have nothing to do with the OP.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 01:43 AM
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8. I don't want my tax $ going to a war machine who uses young girls
like this and can't find peace with it's neighbors. I don't care about the religion. In fact, I resent that religion is brought into it. But religion is used by the neocons as why I must spend my $ to support it.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 01:46 AM
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9. You think Israel the only one with this problem?!
Check some of the things happening in our own military, as well other countries we support monetarily. And, it is a bit simplistic to think the neo-cons are the only ones who support Israel or why the US supports Israel.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 01:52 AM
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10. Point out the reasons, please
Before you try using the religion thing, bear in mind we also support Palestine monetarily to a far lesser degree.

If you choose not to go into why Lieberman, and the Christian right believe we have that duty, that is fine. But don't deny that they believe we do.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 01:57 AM
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11. Reasons
I never said there wasn't religious reason, because there certainly is. However, there is the fact that their is a friendly relation between Israel and the US. Israel is a democracy. Israel is located in an area of the world geographically desirable to the US. Early on, Israel was allied with to "keep an eye on" Russia. There are many reasons that the US supports Israel, religion is only one reason. When it is believed that religion is the primary reason, in some peoples' minds, then there is a problem!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 02:15 AM
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12. You didn't address why we are also supporting Palestine
We just support Israel more? I made a post on another thread that Abraham's seed produced both Mohammed and Jesus and our funding a family feud is insane.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 02:21 AM
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13. For someone who resents religion being brought into the equation...
...you seem to do it often.

We are supporting the PA because it is in our (US) best interests and the interests of our ally, Israel. To have another democracy, especially an Arab one, would be a 'feather in our cap.'
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 03:49 AM
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14. Agreed
I don't want my tax dollars supporting Israel and I want a full investigation of the attack on the USS Liberty in the 1960's.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 03:56 AM
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15. of course you do.
:eyes:
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 04:23 AM
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16. Well I second a request for an investigation.
Which is one of the reasons I really disliked LBJ -- that and he lied the US into the Vietnam war.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 04:33 AM
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17. well, that...and they didn't find Israel guilty.
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