Report: 2 Palestinians kidnapped by right-wingers (Israelis)

[Poll_Blind]

From JPost:

A radical right-wing organization by the name of "Shalhevet Gilad Brigades" announced on Thursday evening that it had kidnapped two Palestinian workers from east Jerusalem.

--snip--

  Well, if the conservative Israeli government can take legislators hostage in an attempt to free Shalit I guess it's only natural that the ultra-conservative Israelis would follow suit. The rest of the article goes on to say the Israeli terrorists give 48 hours for the release of Shalit or they will harm the hostages.

  Personally, from what I've read about the ultra-conservatives in Israel, I doubt they can wait that long...

PB

[AnOhioan]

1. And the "tit for tat" continues......

WIll the government of Israel prosecute the members of the "Shalhevet Gilad Brigades"?

Not likely.

And there goes the Israeli govt's claim that Lebanon should control Hezbollah and that the Palestians should control Hamas.

[cali]

2. My guess is you're wrong and

that the Israeli gov't will come down like a ton of bricks on this group, if only because such actions undermine the authority of the gov't.

[AnOhioan]

4. Time will tell if

Olmert is worthy of his position. So far the odds don't look good.

[Poll_Blind]

8. 3 quick examples why they'll get off easy...

1. Open veneration of Baruch Goldstein. Shmuel Rosner, IIRC, recently mentioned (in his blog) that a new book praising Goldstein's actions- Ha'Aretz search is not working so I can't provide a link but it would have been in the last 2 months.

2. There was so much public support for releasing Yigal Amir (Rabin's assassin) the Knesset had to pass a law preventing the pardoning of a Prime Ministerial assassin.

3. Israeli obsession with bringing the ad hoc killers of Jewish terrorist Eden Natan Zada (who boarded a bus last year and shot 4 Arab Israelis to death, wounding dozens more). Israel so far has been obsessed with one thing- bringing his killers, the men who were overcome by rage at the murder and who boarded the bus and beat him to death after disarming him, to justice*.

  They'll likely get off with six months if they just kill the Palestinian hostages, maybe a year if they drill holes in their hands, bolt them together and smother them to death on national TV. But that's only if there are enough complaints to the censors.

PB

*That's "Israeli 'justice'", btw. Once noble it has been defecated on and corrupted by the sizable right-wing religio-political machine in Israel and is no-longer, generally, recognizable as kin to its grammatically-similar cousin.

[eyl]

13. 3 quick reasons why you're wrong

1. Open veneration of Baruch Goldstein. Shmuel Rosner, IIRC, recently mentioned (in his blog) that a new book praising Goldstein's actions- Ha'Aretz search is not working so I can't provide a link but it would have been in the last 2 months.

Veneration of Goldstein is limted to the fringe of the extremists. As forthe book, do I understand you'd prefer Israel practise censorship?

2. There was so much public support for releasing Yigal Amir (Rabin's assassin) the Knesset had to pass a law preventing the pardoning of a Prime Ministerial assassin.

Uh...did you bother to read the article? From it:

MK Ophir Pines-Paz (Labor), chairman of the Knesset Constitution, Law and Justice Committee, said Tuesday that the purpose of the bill wasn't to prevent an imminent pardon of Amir, but rather to prevent a day in the future when such a scenario would be possible.

"Twenty-five years from now, maybe not everyone will remember Rabin," Vilan said. "Maybe we will have achieved peace agreements with our neighbors," he said, suggesting that at that time the desire to keep Amir in prison could no longer be prevalent in the Israeli public.

Also, so great is the "public support for releasing Yigal Amir", that the bill passed 62-6.

3. Israeli obsession with bringing the ad hoc killers of Jewish terrorist Eden Natan Zada (who boarded a bus last year and shot 4 Arab Israelis to death, wounding dozens more). Israel so far has been obsessed with one thing- bringing his killers, the men who were overcome by rage at the murder and who boarded the bus and beat him to death after disarming him, to justice*.

Nice to know you support vigilantism. Tell me, do you extend the same consideration to Yoram Shkolnik (a settler who was convicted for shooting a bound Arab terrorist) or the Shin Bet defendents in the Bus 300 affair (who shot two captured terrorists - who had attacked a bus, killing one and injuring seven - after capture)?

[azurnoir]

3. This is an

opinion piece from Ynet gives an idea of the right wing doesn't matter who you are agree or else
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3272882,00.html

[Tom Joad]

5. Are they going to cut off electricity to the settlements?

[Poll_Blind]

6. Ha! Indeed! Of course, if such a move were made Peretz or Olmert...

...would be gunned down within a few months of doing so.

PB

[lastknowngood]

7. Yea but that's ok because they are less than human

sarcasm off

[Tom Joad]

9. No one is less than human.

[Igel]

10. The EU called for proportionate force.

This sounds proportionate. I don't expect applause, however, for three reasons. First, because I also don't think the EU really meant what they said. Second, because this is in addition to the other targets Israel's bombing. Third, because the bombing's targetted disproportionately accurately, as opposed to just being aimed "at Beirut" or "Lebanon".

[Violet_Crumble]

11. How is kidnapping civilian workers proportionate?

The Israeli corporal is a soldier and a combatant in the conflict. These two kidnapped workers are innocent civilians. So can you explain how that's proportionate?

[sabbat hunter]

12. i agree

the palestinian civilian kidnapped by the israeli settlers should be released unharmed immediately.

as should the soldiers who were captured on israeli soil. that was an unprovoked incident by hizbollah.