Palestinian Envoy Walks Out of U.N. Talks

[bemildred]

Mostly for the excerpt:

Israel's U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman denounced Arafat as a
stumbling block to peace and accused him of inventing the
modern concept of terrorism, and stopped just short of implicating
him in the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center.

``He is at the helm of those who have been supporting mega-terror
attacks, in the style of the bombing of the twin towers, to bring the
region to catastrophe,'' Gillerman said.

``Global indiscriminate terrorism is made by Arafat and invented by
Arafat.''

Arafat-zilla stalks the World, inflicting Mega-Terror. He is
inventor of the "modern concept of terrorism".

Some other interesting bits too.

Guardian

[StandWatie]

1. you have to wonder if they are serious

These are the same people who invented the letter bomb, when Arafat was about seven years old.

[bemildred]

7. I feel sure that OBL, among many others, must feel slighted.

But then historical veracity is something only us
leftist retards worry about, I guess.

Some "terrorism" links (a bit out of date):

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/issue_SeptOct_2001/sprinzak.html
http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=887
http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=112

[Resistance]

10. I have a proposal to make

how about we put Sharon, Arafat, OBL, and Saddam Hussein in a big cage and let them fight to the death, y'know like Gladiators - the winner gets a free dinner with George in the WH.

Oh wait, Sharon already gets those

[bemildred]

13. That's one of my old fantasies.

Sharon and Arafat in a dirt arena in loincloths,
with swords, winner take all, and all the Israeli
and Palestinian people in the stands.

[Resistance]

17. oh you are a radical aren't you

see, as an American Democrat, I would call for an even-handed approach - which of course means that I would put Sharon in a tank, and demand that Arafat put away the sword.

[bemildred]

19. Well, it's just a fantasy, gives me a little woody ...

[Resistance]

2. ah

but if you accuse Israel of involvement in terror, you are bashed as anti-semitic and a Jew hater.

Then again, logic does not apply for the brain-dead people Gillerman's message is directed towards.

[Lefty48197]

3. Maybe he left to go strap a bomb on himself

and blow up some children.

[Resistance]

5. maybe about the same time

that Gillerman grabbed an assault rifle to spray some children?

[Lefty48197]

18. Was Gillerman educated in a Hamas elementary school?

That is where the murderers are trained.

[StandWatie]

25. obviously a serious student of the middle east

What school did you learn all this at?

[Gimel]

31. He's too old for it

Most of the suicide bombers are 17 or 18 years old...

Suicide bombing of No. 2 Egged bus in Jerusalem
August 19, 2003

Twenty-three people were killed and over 130 wounded when a Palestinian suicide bomber detonated a five-kilogram device packed with ball-bearings on a crowded ...

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0npz0

Included among the dead:

Avraham Bar-Or, 12, of Jerusalem
- Binyamin Bergman, 15, of Jerusalem
Tehilla Nathanson, 3, of Zichron Ya'acov
Issachar Reinitz, 9, of Netanya
Shmuel Taubenfeld, 3 months, of New Square, New York
Shmuel Zargari, 11 months, of Jerusalem.


As a result of the attack, the Cabinet decided on September 1, 2003, among others, to wage an all-out war against Hamas and other terrorist elements, and to freeze the diplomatic process with the Palestinian Authority.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0npz0

So many murdered children. No concern among those responsible.

[Maple]

4. Many of Israel's leaders

were involved in 'terrorist' organizations.

Arafat didn't invent the concept.

[Darranar]

6. It depends on their definition...

of terrorism.

[DuctapeFatwa]

12. Terrorism is any resistance or opposition to US or Israel

The only reason this is not codified is because of all the rejectionist pro-terror nations in the UN.

Fortunately, neither UN resolutions, international laws or the Geneva Convention apply to the US or Israel anyway.

[Darranar]

15. But THAT happened before Arafat, too...

The fight for freedom against US imperialism in the Phillipines, for instance, in the early 20th century.

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16. Dude, the Moro Rebellion!

America's first VietNam experience.
You are learning history.
:thumbsup:

[DuctapeFatwa]

20. Few people know about little Yasser's toddler years in the Pacific

Even as an infant, Baby Yasser's charismatic smile and keen terrorist instincts were more than enough to plant the seeds of terror that grew into the weeds of terror that threaten to choke not only the Philippines, but all of Asia.

[rini]

8. it's about time the world called a spade a spade.

[Darranar]

9. ARAFAT'S A TERRORIST! ARAFAT'S A TERRORIST!

I don't need any evidence! I know for a fact that he's a terrorist! Why? Because the IDF says so!

sarcasm off.

[Equinox]

14. LOL...

True...the only thing is..if you're Palestinian and you disagree with the IDF, it usually means a bullet between the eyes.

[Gimel]

32. Who controls the Palestinian media?

PA TV Again Encouraged Suicide Bombings

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=48007

Quite possibly Arafat gives the orders.

[Darranar]

34. Ah, the usual INN...

"PA TV encourages suicide bombers" when they say very little about the tape aside from the title.

Anyone have a REAL article on these broadcasts?

[Resistance]

11. yeah the world has been doing exactly that

when we call on Israel to stop it's war crimes, settlement expansion, and outright terror on the Palestinian people.

Maybe start paying some attention.

[Scurrilous]

21. A Quick History.

"Israel's U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman denounced Arafat as a
stumbling block to peace and accused him of inventing the
modern concept of terrorism..."

--------------------

From: Centre for Defence & Int'l. Security Studies.

http://www.cdiss.org/terror_1940s.htm

November 27, 1945

Eight British soldiers killed in bomb attack on police station Jerusalem, Palestine, in Jewish Irgun terrorist attack.

July 22, 1946

Ninety people killed and forty five wounded after Jewish terrorists blow up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, Palestine, which was home to British government and military offices.

July 12, 1947

Jewish Irgun terrorists kidnap and then hang two British Army sergeants. The terrorists were trying to secure the release of three Irgun members who had been sentenced to death by the British authorities in Palestine.

September 29, 1947

Jewish Irgun terrorists bomb police station in Haifa, Palestine, killing four British and four Arab policemen, as well as two Arab civilians. Forty six people injured.

December 12, 1947

Twenty Arabs, five Jews and two British soldiers killed and thirty wounded in Jewish terrorist bomb attacks on buses in Haifa and Ramleh, Palestine.


December 29, 1947

Jewish Irgun terrorists throw grenades from passing taxi into café near the Damascus gate, Jerusalem, Palestine, killing eleven Arabs and two British policemen.


September 17, 1948

United Nations mediator in Palestine, Swedish Count Folke Bernadotte, murdered by Jewish Stern gang extremist in Jerusalem, Palestine, who fired at point blank range through window of his official car.



.....attacks on cafes. Attacks on police stations. Attacks on buses. Bombings of hotels. Kidnapping. Murder. Terror in all the familiar places. Tell me again how Yasser Arafat 'invented' all this.

[tinnypriv]

22. This is the sort of irresponsible hysteria Israeli's are bombarded with

Looks stupid outside of Israel, but I think they take it quite seriously.

They literally think the guy is the hub of terror and their Bin Laden.

[StandWatie]

24. it's worse than say the "national review" here?

I'm not shitting you, I saw something recently that was talking about Jenin being a KBG disinformation program. I don't know what planet they live on but I can't imagine Israeli media being nuttier than the US media.

[tinnypriv]

26. LOL good point

Outside of Nikuda, Arutz7 and Yesha settler style journals it is my impression that there isn't anything really lunatic in the style of the National Review, thats true.

And todah g-d for that! :D

There is a difference though - the fact that Ha'aretz, Ma'ariv, Jpost and Yediot are 95% of the market seems to create kind of an echo chamber for prevailing views. Unlike the US media it doesn't make much difference whether those views are aimed at a mass circulation or sophisticated audience as far as I can see (certain op-ed writers excepted).

However, that may be because of the prevailing security situation at the moment - there is no government opposition thanks to the 'unity' coalition.

Interesting little things are the fact that 99% of people take anything any military guy says as gospel truth - if it comes down to a politican disagreeing with the military, there is no contest (anyway, the politicians are often military anyway). Also, Bush is often ridiculed as as an "oil man" and actually not pro-Israel enough!

Everyone outside of Ha'aretz hates Peres as well. Mr Iron Fist is too much of a dove!

[StandWatie]

27. Israel is Prussia..

der Soldate ist der beste Mann in Staate

[tinnypriv]

28. Google says:

"The soldier is the best man in the state"

Are we talking about Israel now, or Wes Clark? ;-)

[StandWatie]

29. all of the above I believe...

[Gimel]

33. No, not quite

The "bin Laden" was assassinated in Ramala with the 1 ton bomb, remember? Arafat is too imbecilic.

[Gimel]

23. Arafat's nephew

The article fails to mention that Nasser al-Kidwa, the Palestinian envoy, is Arafat's nephew.

The post by DTFatwa indicates that a mythos has already recreated Arafat as a Moslem saint.

[DuctapeFatwa]

30. Yeah, well wait till Baby Arafat Head appears in YOUR tortilla!

We'll just see how much you charge Entertainment Tonight for exclusive photos.